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One Week And Counting Down - NYSRPA Case Hits SCOTUS Next Monday


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#1 blue steel

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Posted November 25 2019 - 10:32 AM

I can hardly contain my excitement. In just 7 days SCOTUS will hear the oral arguments. I will say a prayer at the Thansgiving dinner for success. So put the date on your calendar and set aside time next Monday for following all the webby posts !
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Posted November 25 2019 - 02:41 PM

NYC and NYS are expecting to have a "really bad day, at the office," next Monday.

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Posted November 25 2019 - 02:59 PM

If this case goes badly for liberals can you imagine the response you will get from them.

This is not my Supreme court.

I didn't vote for this Supreme Court

The state will not give up it's control. 

People can not be trusted with guns.

 

The list can go on and on


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Posted November 25 2019 - 03:47 PM

It’s already a victory for every hunter who lives in NYC having the freedom to hunt with their handgun this season without an Hunter Endorsement Card.
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Posted November 25 2019 - 04:01 PM

Amy Howe over at scotusblog refreshed her article on this case. Well worth the read for anyone not aware of what is going on...



https://www.scotusbl...nt/#more-290422
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Posted November 25 2019 - 06:05 PM

Lian Hilsmiser wrote a great piece today on Vox about the case and the fear the liberals have of it.


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Posted November 25 2019 - 06:10 PM

Sorry its Ian Millhiser.


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Posted November 25 2019 - 07:00 PM

Lian Hilsmiser wrote a great piece today on Vox about the case and the fear the liberals have of it.

https://www.vox.com/...ork-state-rifle
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Posted November 25 2019 - 07:02 PM

 

Thanks boosti could never figure out how to copy and paste.I also still have a flip phone so there you go!!!!!!!!!!LOL.


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Posted November 25 2019 - 08:57 PM

Really hoping this has lasting impact beyond NYC and helps the rest of NY feel like a free state..
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Posted November 25 2019 - 10:07 PM

If SCOTUS rules that states cannot restrict bearing arms outside the house, King Cuomo will somehow try to keep us from carrying.


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Posted November 26 2019 - 07:13 AM

Really hoping this has lasting impact beyond NYC and helps the rest of NY feel like a free state..

Let's hope and pray time will hold it as a "Benchmark" decision!


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Posted November 26 2019 - 07:16 AM

I can hardly contain my excitement. In just 7 days SCOTUS will hear the oral arguments. I will say a prayer at the Thansgiving dinner for success. So put the date on your calendar and set aside time next Monday for following all the webby posts !

I hope we continue to hear updates rather than sit in the dark till June 2020. Will Scotus Blog continue to be providing progress reports during and after the arguments?


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Posted November 26 2019 - 08:18 AM

I hope we continue to hear updates rather than sit in the dark till June 2020. Will Scotus Blog continue to be providing progress reports during and after the arguments?


Well they definitely will cover and comment on the orals. Then if they decide on the mootness issue in a couple of weeks. But SCOTUS don't leak. If it goes to a decision then just like Heller and McD it is radio silence. The blog might speculate a bit but they are covering all the other scotus cases. Frustrating indeedy...lol
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Posted November 26 2019 - 09:36 AM

Well they definitely will cover and comment on the orals. Then if they decide on the mootness issue in a couple of weeks. But SCOTUS don't leak. If it goes to a decision then just like Heller and McD it is radio silence. The blog might speculate a bit but they are covering all the other scotus cases. Frustrating indeedy...lol

Thanks for the update, at least we have a reason to stay tuned for awhile!



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Posted November 26 2019 - 08:48 PM

Per the above post, SCOTUSBLOG will comment on this case and indeedy I missed this one from a couple of days ago. 2A lawyer Dave Kopel and Barnett wrote up a column well worth reading....



https://www.scotusbl...cond-amendment/

 

I heard about the above today from the Cam Edwards show where he talked about the case also...

 


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Posted November 27 2019 - 07:48 AM

This just came in, from Reuters. It seems that one of the plaintiffs, in the pending SCOTUS case, has been arrested, on what seems a nonsense and non-arrestable issue, possibly in an attempt to discourage him from going forward. NYC and NYS seem to be getting more desperate, each day.
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By Andrew Chung
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    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Two weeks before Efrain Alvarez and his attorneys asked the U.S. Supreme Court to hear their challenge to a New York City regulation that limited where licensed handgun owners could transport their weapons, police officers showed up at his Bronx apartment and took away all his firearms.
    The officers walked past the bullet-making equipment in his cluttered entranceway and past the trophy deer head hanging on his living room wall. From two imposing steel vaults in the back bedroom, they confiscated around 45 firearms, including five handguns.
    "I'm still numb about it," the 64-year-old retired city bus driver said of the August 2018 seizure. "It's my lifelong collection."
    The officers arrested Alvarez, and he was charged with filing a false police report over a claim that one of his handguns had been stolen, a misdemeanor. As a result, Alvarez said, the very handgun license whose transport restrictions he is challenging has been suspended for the second time this decade.
    The legal battle over the New York measure is the biggest gun rights case at the Supreme Court since 2010, with the justices set to hear arguments next Monday. The challenge is backed by the National Rifle Association, an influential gun rights lobby group closely aligned with Republicans including President Donald Trump, a fellow New Yorker.
    The regulation restricted transport of handguns by licensed owners to shooting ranges within city limits but allowed hunting during designated seasons. The lawsuit claims the measure violated the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.
    After the regulation was amended in July to allow for transporting handguns outside New York City, city officials unsuccessfully asked the Supreme Court to drop the matter and cancel the arguments, asserting that the case was moot.
    The state's NRA affiliate, the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association, filed the lawsuit in 2013 with Alvarez and two other gun owners as plaintiffs, after authorities told the men that the regulation prevented them from participating at a shooting competition in New Jersey or bringing their guns to second homes elsewhere in the state.
    Alvarez said he joined the suit because he thought it was ridiculous that he could own a handgun but not travel to compete with it.
    In the lawsuit, he and the two other gun owners are described as "law-abiding residents of New York City." Alvarez does not think his own legal troubles make it awkward or inappropriate for him to challenge the regulation.
    "My suspension has nothing to do with my fight in court," Alvarez said in an interview.
    Alvarez also said he accepted a deal last week offered by the Bronx district attorney's office to drop the charge in six months if he is not arrested again.
    Asked about Alvarez's arrest and license suspension, one of the plaintiffs' attorneys, Brian Stapleton, said it was the first he had heard of it.
    "It has no impact on this case whatsoever," Stapleton said.
    Describing himself as a supporter of gun control measures like strong background checks, Alvarez said he hopes the ruling in his case does not undermine other firearms restrictions.
    "If a bad apple grabs a gun and he does something stupid, it kind of falls on me because I'm part of what's going on. So it would kind of hit a sore spot," added Alvarez, who said he admires the NRA but disagrees with some of its policies.
    SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT
    The plaintiffs appealed to the Supreme Court after a lower court found that the regulation did not violate the Second Amendment and advanced the city's interest in protecting public safety.
    The Supreme Court in 2008 found for the first time that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep a gun in the home for self-defense. In 2010, the court extended that right to state and local laws as well. But the justices have avoided ruling in a major firearms case since then, leaving open questions such as whether that right extends outside the home.
    "I hope that they clarify that the right to posses a firearm outside the home is as important and fundamental as the right to possess one inside the home," Stapleton said.
    Gun control advocates fear that the conservative-majority Supreme Court could use the case to expand gun rights and threaten a wide array of gun control measures nationwide such as expanded background checks and "red flag" laws targeting the firearms of people deemed dangerous by the courts.
    "I don't think there's any question that, if given the opportunity, the NRA and its allies will try to re-challenge laws that have already been upheld and certainly challenge any new laws," said Eric Tirschwell, managing director of litigation at Everytown for Gun Safety, a gun control lobby group that receives funding from Democratic presidential candidate and former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
    Born and raised in New York, Alvarez is affable and blunt. He has been a gun enthusiast since serving in the U.S. National Guard decades ago. He said he became an avid hunter and started competitive shooting, winning several awards.
    His hobby extends to making bullets, reloading spent casings in a mini-workshop that fills the vestibule of his Bronx apartment. He polishes the casings, melts the lead, pours the molds and sets the bullet heads with a pull of the press.
    Alvarez's August 2018 arrest came after police said he falsely reported a .38 caliber revolver had been stolen by two men he claimed had fooled him by posing as police officers. The saga led police to suspend his handgun license and confiscate his firearms, he said. The New York Police Department declined to discuss Alvarez's case.
    "Everybody who owns a firearm in New York City should have the right to take that firearm to his property, and out of the city to go shooting," Alvarez's said. "We're not looking for anything else as far as I'm concerned."



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Posted November 27 2019 - 09:28 AM

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I suspect a slow news days before the holiday triggered this article. Cops grabbed him a year and a half ago in Aug 2018 and article says they offered expungment in 6 months. So he is free and clear me thinks. BUT I wouldn't put it past the leftist cabal to try and "dirty" him up before the SCOTUS hearing also...

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Posted November 27 2019 - 10:18 AM

The plaintiff “Alvarez” said the lawsuit is for transporting the firearm outside NYC and wasn’t looking for anything else.
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Posted November 27 2019 - 06:41 PM

I hope it goes all the way so Kavanaugh can provide the crucial vote as an FU to what they put him through.


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