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Springfield M1A and NY Safe Act Compliance
#21
Posted December 22 2020 - 09:28 PM
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#22
Posted December 22 2020 - 10:46 PM
Felt recoil definitely less than your typical non braked bolt action in 308.
Now if you want to spend the extra money you can call LRB and see if they still offer their Sporter model that is NY compliant. Quite unique and definitely an eye catcher.
#23
Posted December 23 2020 - 09:36 AM
Subdivision 22 of section 265.00 of the penal law, as added by chapter 189 of the laws of 2000, is amended to read as follows:
22. "Assault weapon" means [(a) a semiautomatic rifle that has
an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of
the following characteristics:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon;
(iii) a bayonet mount;
(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate
a flash suppressor; (v) a grenade launcher; or
( a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the
following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon; (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds;
(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or
© a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a
detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics:
(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of
the pistol grip; (ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely
encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm
with the nontrigger hand without being burned; (iv) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; (v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm; or (d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber,known as:
Its been almost 8 years since this abomination came out so some of us could probably use the actual verbiage...
#24
Posted December 23 2020 - 11:05 AM
So why is a Saiga 12 illegal? It only has one characteristic - the detachable magazine. What am I missing here?
#25
Posted December 23 2020 - 01:26 PM
I got me a compliant SA M1A a few years back and I can tell you the barrel is not as long as it shows on your posted photo. It almost feels like a 16 inch size rifle. Never really measured it. It is a scout squad model with the front rail section.
Felt recoil definitely less than your typical non braked bolt action in 308.
Now if you want to spend the extra money you can call LRB and see if they still offer their Sporter model that is NY compliant. Quite unique and definitely an eye catcher.
I originally posted this over a year ago and ended up getting this:
SPRINGFIELD M1A SCOUT SQUAD BLACK .308WIN / 7.62NATO 18-INCH 10RD NY COMPLIANT
https://grabagun.com...9126nt-m1a.html
I agree the barrel seems short so happy with the way it looks.
Unfortunately, it’s going on 2 years since I owned it and I have yet to put a round through it! Shame on me. I gotta make some time...
#26
Posted December 23 2020 - 07:02 PM
Regarding the stock non compliance, I was thinking yesterday it is akin to a Thordsen stock. What is it about this one that makes it a pistol grip/no go?
If you wrap your thumb around the grip, and be able to fire while the web of hand (between the thumb and the index figer) is below the action, the grip is not compliant. With the Thordsen stock, it is impossible to have the web of hand below the action and still be able to fire. So the Thordsen stock is compliant.
#27
Posted December 26 2020 - 06:44 PM
I originally posted this over a year ago and ended up getting this:
SPRINGFIELD M1A SCOUT SQUAD BLACK .308WIN / 7.62NATO 18-INCH 10RD NY COMPLIANT
https://grabagun.com...9126nt-m1a.html
I agree the barrel seems short so happy with the way it looks.
Unfortunately, it’s going on 2 years since I owned it and I have yet to put a round through it! Shame on me. I gotta make some time...
Yep. We have twins. Such a great rifle. Some people freak out with not having the brake but i really dont care about it. The Semi auto action absorbs plenty of the recoil so it is not hard to shoot. Actually my Remington 700 has worse felt recoil than this one. Not super heavy either.
#28
Posted December 30 2020 - 07:55 PM
Subdivision 22 of section 265.00 of the penal law, as added by chapter 189 of the laws of 2000, is amended to read as follows:
22. "Assault weapon" means [(a) a semiautomatic rifle that has
an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of
the following characteristics:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon;
(iii) a bayonet mount;
(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate
a flash suppressor; (v) a grenade launcher; or
(a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the
following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon; (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds;
(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or
© a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a
detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics:
(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of
the pistol grip; (ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely
encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm
with the nontrigger hand without being burned; (iv) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; (v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm; or (d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber,known as:
Its been almost 8 years since this abomination came out so some of us could probably use the actual verbiage...
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