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#1 mnich797

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Posted December 17 2018 - 09:28 AM

Anyone know if Chesters will reopen?

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#2 boosti

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Posted December 17 2018 - 11:05 AM

I haven't heard about the Grand Jury yet. If he's charged with anything, I bet Newsday or News 12 would cover the story.
A new DA who isn't pro 2A. Hopefully the owner is like Marty from T&T and will fight this.
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Posted December 17 2018 - 07:12 PM

I haven't heard about the Grand Jury yet. If he's charged with anything, I bet Newsday or News 12 would cover the story.
A new DA who isn't pro 2A. Hopefully the owner is like Marty from T&T and will fight this.

 

What were the circumstances for closing? what were the accusations? (hoping there was no legitimate reason for closure) 



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Posted December 17 2018 - 08:36 PM

do a search for "Chesters"   Pretty sure there were separate threads on this.  



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Posted December 18 2018 - 07:06 AM

do a search for "Chesters"   Pretty sure there were separate threads on this.

Every forum member and LGS in Suffolk should support Chester in this witch Hunt.
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#6 CoolBreeze

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Posted December 18 2018 - 11:16 PM

Every forum member and LGS in Suffolk should support Chester in this witch Hunt.

 

 

While I do believe that he was targeted, as a fish in a barrel so to speak, he knows the rules, and if he broke the rules, then why should we support him?



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Posted December 19 2018 - 06:30 AM

While I do believe that he was targeted, as a fish in a barrel so to speak, he knows the rules, and if he broke the rules, then why should we support him?

I would ask yourself, why hasn't the charges or the Grand Jury become public yet... I wouldn't throw him under the bus because you didn't like him because of a bad experience.
This is exactly the same type of response other people made about another shop owner who wasn't guilty of anything. He won his civil lawsuit and was not charged during the second attempt a few years back when Kathleen Rice targeted gun shops in Nassau County.
This new DA in Suffolk may go after other shops now. This is why we shouldn't smash a gun store owner until the facts are presented and a jury finds him guilty.
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Posted December 19 2018 - 08:28 AM

While I do believe that he was targeted, as a fish in a barrel so to speak, he knows the rules, and if he broke the rules, then why should we support him?

 

You should also understand how convoluted and confusing the laws can be.   Add on top of that the willingness to 'set up' a dealer, just to make brownie points.

 

Then there is always the little concept of Innocent until Proven guilty.....  we certainly shouldn't turn our backs on him unless and until he is convicted.


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Posted December 19 2018 - 01:00 PM

The charges are public, you can see them on eCourts


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Posted December 19 2018 - 01:06 PM

The charges are public, you can see them on eCourts

Awesome, can you list those for us... Thanks
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Posted December 19 2018 - 07:33 PM

Awesome, can you list those for us... Thanks

https://www.longisla...nkoma-mia/page6



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Posted December 20 2018 - 12:11 PM

You should also understand how convoluted and confusing the laws can be.   Add on top of that the willingness to 'set up' a dealer, just to make brownie points.

 

Then there is always the little concept of Innocent until Proven guilty.....  we certainly shouldn't turn our backs on him unless and until he is convicted.

 

It also gives the unconstitutional "unSafe" act credibility, when gun owners throw folks under the bus with "he knew the rules".


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Posted December 20 2018 - 12:17 PM

Crim possession of a firearm, and crim sale of a firearm, both are class D felonies. 



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Posted December 20 2018 - 12:37 PM

Crim possession of a firearm, and crim sale of a firearm, both are class D felonies.

The one charge is a B Felony when it's 10 or more Firearms.
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Posted December 20 2018 - 10:22 PM

You should also understand how convoluted and confusing the laws can be.   Add on top of that the willingness to 'set up' a dealer, just to make brownie points.

 

Then there is always the little concept of Innocent until Proven guilty.....  we certainly shouldn't turn our backs on him unless and until he is convicted.

ANother dealer was arrested years ago. He wasn't charged for days because they didn't know what to charge him with. One of the charges was for an unregistered suppressor- What it actually was was a flash hider from an FAL variant, which THEY mounted to a 22 rifle and showed it reduced the sound level. If you don't have the $ to fight them, they can screw you, really hard


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Posted December 20 2018 - 10:24 PM

ANother dealer was arrested years ago. He wasn't charged for days because they didn't know what to charge him with. One of the charges was for an unregistered suppressor- What it actually was was a flash hider from an FAL variant, which THEY mounted to a 22 rifle and showed it reduced the sound level. If you don't have the $ to fight them, they can screw you, really hard

 

And there you go - a bloop tube on an Olympic rifle will get you locked up.


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Posted November 15 2020 - 12:16 PM

https://www.longisla...zHWfl04iIuo4IeQ

Former Sporting Goods Store Owner Pleads Guilty to Illegal Firearm Possession

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BY LONG ISLAND PUBLISHED: NOVEMBER 13 2020

Suffolk DA: Former Sporting Goods Store Owner Pleads Guilty to Illegal Firearm Possession; Forfeits Cache Of Assault Rifles, High-Capacity Magazines

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Suffolk County District Attorney Timothy D. Sini has announced the guilty plea of a former sporting goods store owner for the illegal possession of firearms.

Chester Pergan, 54, of St. James, pleaded guilty today in front of Suffolk County Supreme Court Justice Mark Cohen to Criminal Possession of a Firearm, a class E felony. Pursuant to the plea agreement, Pergan is ordered to forfeit 116 assault weapons, 921 high-capacity magazines, 88 kung fu stars, 80 knives, and $20,000. He also faces a sentence of one year in jail.

“Today’s conviction sends a clear message to gun store owners that if you don’t play by the rules, you will no longer be allowed to do business in Suffolk County,” District Attorney Sini said. “As a convicted felon, this defendant is not only facing jail time, but is barred from possessing or selling firearms ever again. We now have more than 100 assault weapons that will never make it into the wrong hands, and an illegitimate operation that has been permanently shut down thanks to the excellent work of the prosecutors and investigators on this case.”

“This is another example of a successful operation with our partners in law enforcement involving the removal of assault weapons from our community,” New York State Police Acting Troop Commander George J. Mohl said. “It sends a clear message that there is zero tolerance for this type of illegal activity, and these acts will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.”

“This multi-agency investigation led to a guilty plea and ensured that former gun store owner Chester Pergan will never sell firearms again,” Suffolk County Police Commissioner Geraldine Hart said. “Thanks to the cooperative efforts of our department, New York State Police and the Suffolk County District Attorney’s Office we have ensured the forfeited weapons do not wind up in the wrong hands.”

Pergan was the owner of Chester’s Hunting & Fishing, located at 232 Ronkonkoma Avenue in Ronkonkoma. In 2018, the Suffolk County District Attorney’s Office, New York State Police and Suffolk County Police Department began an investigation into alleged illegal weapons sales occurring at the store. Pursuant to the investigation, a search warrant was executed at the store on Nov. 14, 2018, at which time Pergan was found in possession of 116 illegal assault weapons, including a loaded AK-47 found near the front counter at the store; 80 illegal knives; 88 kung fu stars; and 921 high-capacity magazines.

Chester’s Hunting & Fishing was closed immediately following the search warrant in November 2018.

At the time of his arrest in November 2018, Pergan maintained a Federal Firearms License (“FFL”), which permitted him to sell rifles and shotguns; but had surrendered his New York State Dealer in Firearms License in 2015, making it illegal for him to purchase, possess or sell assault weapons. The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives revoked his FFL following his arrest.

Pergan is scheduled to be sentenced on Jan. 14, 2021.

This case is being prosecuted by Assistant District Attorney Mary Skiber, of the Enhanced Prosecution Bureau.


 


#18 only7rounds2

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Posted November 15 2020 - 12:47 PM

So he gets a year for 116 "assault weapons" and 91 "hi capacity magazines".
What is the penalty for possessing one?



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Posted November 15 2020 - 12:54 PM

So he gets a year for 116 "assault weapons" and 91 "hi capacity magazines".
What is the penalty for possessing one?

UP to a year... not sure why the "assault weapons" were illegal


Edited by phumb, November 15 2020 - 12:55 PM.


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Posted November 15 2020 - 01:07 PM

 in November 2018, Pergan maintained a Federal Firearms License (“FFL”), which permitted him to sell rifles and shotguns; but had surrendered his New York State Dealer in Firearms License in 2015, making it illegal for him to purchase, possess or sell assault weapons. The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives revoked his FFL following his arrest.

Pergan is scheduled to be sentenced on Jan. 14, 2021.


 

 

 

Is it really that simple?  He had an FFL license but surrendered his NY Dealer license?   Why on earth would he continue to sell firearms if he didn't have his NY license?   If that was the case, how could he NOT expect to get shut down and go to jail for it?

 

Why were they checking the serial numbers of the lowers he sold to everyone?  I can't help but wonder if there is more to this that we just don't know.






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