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Add a pistol to License: Suffolk vs. Nassau

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#1 JohnnyYen

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Posted August 07 2018 - 01:49 PM

 
To add a pistol to my license in Suffolk, I need to undergo the "Yaphank Shuffle". For the uninitiated, here's the Yaphank shuffle in all it's asinine glory:
 
 
1. Purchase a pistol from a dealer.
2. Take the purchase receipt to the Pistol Licensing division in Yaphank along with a $5 money order.  Obtain a 'purchase document' (with raised seal), from the folks in Yaphank.  
3. Take Yaphank's purchase document back to the dealer who will then release the pistol (following a NICS background check). 
4. Take the pistol back to Yaphank. The folks in Yaphank will "inspect" the pistol and finally add the make/model/serialNumber to your Pistol license card
 
 
I understand that there are checks and balances here to ensure that the correct serial number makes its way onto our pistol license. I get it - our government doesn't trust us. 
 
 
What I don't understand is why the difference between Suffolk and Nassau? I'm being told that the procedure is less time consuming for Nassau residents. 
 
 
Why is that? 
 
 
Are residents of Nassau county more -trustworthy- than the residents of Suffolk county? 
 
 
What gives?
 
 
I'm actually surprised that this wasteful process isn't practiced in Nassau. Our Gov't will jump at the first chance to add additional administrative overhead (more overhead = more regulation = more employees = MORE TAXES). The more waste the better. Nassau is as corrupt as it gets, so I'm VERY surprised that they don't have to go through this nonsense like we do. 
 
 
It's ridiculous that I need to take the day off work to add a pistol to my license, while my neighbor a few miles to the west of me can add a pistol without the back-and-forth nonsense. 
 
 
How do we get this changed for Suffolk county without ruining things for our 2A friends in Nassau?  Should we petition our Suffolk County executive?  What (if anything) can be done about this? Am I off base here? 
 


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#2 Incognito

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Posted August 07 2018 - 02:21 PM

Welcome to the forum.

Welcome to downstate NY.



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Posted August 07 2018 - 02:26 PM

The courts have given the pistol licensing  officer (the SCPD commissioner in the western towns of Suffolk County) broad discretion in administering handgun licensing, et. al.

The commissioner is appointed by the County Executive.

Downstate is more liberal than conservative.

 

We can do little to change things.

 

BTW - The shuffle has gone through various iterations over time.

 

ETA -

I had a discussion with a local gun store owner this past week. He believes that Suffolk may soon adopt Nassau county's process.

He also told me that he has recently noticed a change for the better.

Time will tell.


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#4 JohnnyYen

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Posted August 07 2018 - 02:54 PM

I guess it is what it is... Don't like it? There's the bridge... There's a whole world on the other side. 



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Posted August 07 2018 - 03:39 PM

The whole thing could be handled very similar to the way hunting licenses are printed and issued by the retailer accessing NY State's database.

The damn lottery figured out how to do it with remote terminals.

You could get a 10 day temporary paper gun registration (like the DMV) until the updated license shows up in the mail. Done!

 

The local gun store is supposed to look at your license before you even touch the handgun. He could pop those numbers into a terminal to validate your license and proceed from there.

 

Just saying.



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Posted August 07 2018 - 05:05 PM

 

 
To add a pistol to my license in Suffolk, I need to undergo the "Yaphank Shuffle". For the uninitiated, here's the Yaphank shuffle in all it's asinine glory:
 
 
1. Purchase a pistol from a dealer.
2. Take the purchase receipt to the Pistol Licensing division in Yaphank along with a $5 money order.  Obtain a 'purchase document' (with raised seal), from the folks in Yaphank.  
3. Take Yaphank's purchase document back to the dealer who will then release the pistol (following a NICS background check). 
4. Take the pistol back to Yaphank. The folks in Yaphank will "inspect" the pistol and finally add the make/model/serialNumber to your Pistol license card
 
 
I understand that there are checks and balances here to ensure that the correct serial number makes its way onto our pistol license. I get it - our government doesn't trust us. 
 
 
What I don't understand is why the difference between Suffolk and Nassau? I'm being told that the procedure is less time consuming for Nassau residents. 
 
 
Why is that? 
 
 
Are residents of Nassau county more -trustworthy- than the residents of Suffolk county? 
 
 
What gives?
 
 
I'm actually surprised that this wasteful process isn't practiced in Nassau. Our Gov't will jump at the first chance to add additional administrative overhead (more overhead = more regulation = more employees = MORE TAXES). The more waste the better. Nassau is as corrupt as it gets, so I'm VERY surprised that they don't have to go through this nonsense like we do. 
 
 
It's ridiculous that I need to take the day off work to add a pistol to my license, while my neighbor a few miles to the west of me can add a pistol without the back-and-forth nonsense. 
 
 
How do we get this changed for Suffolk county without ruining things for our 2A friends in Nassau?  Should we petition our Suffolk County executive?  What (if anything) can be done about this? Am I off base here? 

 

 

Does it have to be a money order? Nassau accepts cards, doesn't make sense if that's the only payment. Might be moving into Suffolk so just trying to get an understanding.



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Posted August 07 2018 - 05:50 PM

Does it have to be a money order? Nassau accepts cards, doesn't make sense if that's the only payment. Might be moving into Suffolk so just trying to get an understanding.

SCPD PLB will accept a personal check.

 

On more than one occasion I have written $5.00 checks for fellow gun owners who made the mistake of only bringing cash with them. 


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Posted August 07 2018 - 11:51 PM

SCPD PLB will accept a personal check.

 

On more than one occasion I have written $5.00 checks for fellow gun owners who made the mistake of only bringing cash with them. 

 

Well that's a pain, hopefully they'll eventually take cards. I can understand the no cash thing but it sounds like they're just trying to make it as inconvenient as possible.



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Posted August 08 2018 - 12:46 PM

Personal checks are GTG.

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Posted August 08 2018 - 02:18 PM

Does it have to be a money order? Nassau accepts cards, doesn't make sense if that's the only payment. Might be moving into Suffolk so just trying to get an understanding.

 

Personal check or money order... No CC's. That would be too easy. 



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Posted August 08 2018 - 03:08 PM

Personal check or money order... No CC's. That would be too easy. 

 

Of course, it's as if they're trying to make it difficult.



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Posted August 08 2018 - 06:06 PM

Why not complain to Gov. Huomo? Sorry I don't wish to disrespect Homo's



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Posted August 08 2018 - 06:53 PM

Personal check or money order... No CC's. That would be too easy.


I don’t think it’s about ease, it’s about $$

They don’t want to pay the credit card companies the fee

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Posted August 08 2018 - 07:20 PM

Why not complain to Gov. Huomo? Sorry I don't wish to disrespect Homo's

 

I shouted at the wall instead, got the same result but it was a lot less effort.



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Posted August 09 2018 - 09:24 PM

I don’t think it’s about ease, it’s about $$

They don’t want to pay the credit card companies the fee

 

They could charge a surcharge to cover the CC fee. 

 

 

I could care less about using credit cards.  My gripe is with the purchase process and how I have to waste more time than my neighbor up the road does.

 

 

Wasn't a 2A class action lawsuit filed against Nassau county some time ago? 







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