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#21 2edgesword

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Posted October 24 2016 - 10:08 PM

Very nice!

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Posted October 26 2016 - 12:45 PM

OP, she's a beauty!!  Use her in good health!!!  I haven't gotten a lever action yet, but it's on my wish list.   I have looked at rossi, marlins, winchesters and Henry's.  IMO, Henry really is the sexiest of the bunch.  Since I am not a hunter and don't have the budget to go plinking with big full size centerfire cartridges,  I would probably go for a big boy in .380/.357--possibly .44.   As one other person above mentioned, I agree that none of these guns are really ideal for home defense (at least in the Nassau County suburbs).   Even chambered for .357, the long rifle barrel bumps up velocity of a 128gr bullet into the 1500-1600fps range.   That bullet will pass like walls like butter, but even the velocity bump isn't enough to cause that big bullet to break up like a .223 HP or SP.   .380 might be better for HD, but from what I have read, lever actions don't feed them as well as their full sized brothers.   

 

Just out of curiosity, is there any reason why manufacturers don't make a lever action in 9mm?  I am assuming there some sort of technical issue that makes it problematic--otherwise I would think a fun, cheap to shoot 9mm lever action, that could serve HD duty would be on the market.   Anyone have the skinny on this?


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Posted October 26 2016 - 08:51 PM

Have you snuck way to the range shoot it yet.



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Posted October 30 2016 - 08:28 AM

I haven't hunted yet, but I think it would be better for hunting than the range, as you wouldn't need to reload while hunting. At the range, I would be loading the rifle more often. I don't like the idea of sticking my hand up there, near or in front of the muzzle. While, I would on one level "know" there is nothing in the chamber, Rule 1 says ALL guns are loaded. it just seems like a violation of Rules 1 and 2, and I don't want to lose my mortal fear of muzzling anything I am not prepared to destroy, nor do I ever want to think of any rifle as "not loaded". Very bad and dangerous habit IMO.

I agree it is not great for self defense, with the 4 round capacity and slow and awkward loading method.


In MHO, if you shoot yurself loading a Henry or any other tube fed lever gun, well, you deserved it. Again, that's my opinion. Training, knowing the weapons manual of arms and common sense dictate here. Those that have issues like this should not have access to these types of firearms or should find something safe, like a single shot bolt maybe?
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Posted October 30 2016 - 08:59 AM

As with any firearm, training and using the proper caliber and bullet when hunting. The 45-70 is a proven caliber. Hunters and professional guides use it for a reason.
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Posted October 30 2016 - 09:37 AM

As with any firearm, training and using the proper caliber and bullet when hunting. The 45-70 is a proven caliber. Hunters and professional guides use it for a reason.

 

 

With the newer  guns you can hand load  some real potent  rounds that you will regret firing.

 

 

I don't have the recipe handy . If I remember correctly I load 100 rounds of 480gr or 500gr Hornady DGX  for a friend going on a bear cruise in Alaska.


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Posted November 04 2016 - 12:01 AM

OP, she's a beauty!!  Use her in good health!!!  I haven't gotten a lever action yet, but it's on my wish list.   I have looked at rossi, marlins, winchesters and Henry's.  IMO, Henry really is the sexiest of the bunch.  Since I am not a hunter and don't have the budget to go plinking with big full size centerfire cartridges,  I would probably go for a big boy in .380/.357--possibly .44.   As one other person above mentioned, I agree that none of these guns are really ideal for home defense (at least in the Nassau County suburbs).   Even chambered for .357, the long rifle barrel bumps up velocity of a 128gr bullet into the 1500-1600fps range.   That bullet will pass like walls like butter, but even the velocity bump isn't enough to cause that big bullet to break up like a .223 HP or SP.   .380 might be better for HD, but from what I have read, lever actions don't feed them as well as their full sized brothers.   

 

Just out of curiosity, is there any reason why manufacturers don't make a lever action in 9mm?  I am assuming there some sort of technical issue that makes it problematic--otherwise I would think a fun, cheap to shoot 9mm lever action, that could serve HD duty would be on the market.   Anyone have the skinny on this?

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Actually picked up a Henry Big Boy carbine in .357/.38 special a week later from LI Ammo (Kim drives a hard bargain!)

 

A really sick lever. Octagon Barrel, 16" length, big loop, beautiful polished brass finish in .357. I'm in love. Will have another set of pics up on this beauty when I have the time (if only I had more time LOL).


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Posted November 04 2016 - 10:10 AM

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Actually picked up a Henry Big Boy carbine in .357/.38 special a week later from LI Ammo (Kim drives a hard bargain!)
 
A really sick lever. Octagon Barrel, 16" length, big loop, beautiful polished brass finish in .357. I'm in love. Will have another set of pics up on this beauty when I have the time (if only I had more time LOL).

Congratulations...I would recommend buying the Five shot tube for hunting deer upstate. The .357 is a great caliber!

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Posted November 04 2016 - 10:10 AM

In MHO, if you shoot yurself loading a Henry or any other tube fed lever gun, well, you deserved it. Again, that's my opinion. Training, knowing the weapons manual of arms and common sense dictate here. Those that have issues like this should not have access to these types of firearms or should find something safe, like a single shot bolt maybe?

 

 

Again, my point is that it is an inherently less safe, slower and less convenient way to load a tube fed magazine.   I realize that you can work around it, by being very careful.  I own a Henry Goldenboy and love it.  When I shoot it, I am very careful not to let any part of my hand cross the muzzle while removing or reinserting the follower.  From what I have seen online, most shooters are not so careful.   

 

But the fact remains, a gun that requires you to stick your hand up by the muzzle when loading it (and in most videos I see, the shooters pass their hand across the muzzle) is an inferior design. I would prefer a rifle that does not tend to encourage bad safety habits like losing fear and respect for the muzzle or thinking "it's not loaded".  IMHO, those habits can spread.  A shooter might not  negligently shoot himself or someone with the Herny, but if you lose fear of the muzzle and get in the habit of thinking "it's not loaded" it can make you more dangerous with ALL your guns. 

 

 I  understand them keeping it to keep their rifles more historically accurate, but since they are coming out with all sorts of new fangled lever guns, that are way outside the original Henry tradition, why not also make some with some late 19th Century features?   

 

I am not saying people shouldn't buy Henrys.  They are a great company that makes great rifles.  I am just saying, I personally, greatly prefer a side loading gate.  It would make a great product even better. 


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Posted November 04 2016 - 05:47 PM

Again, my point is that it is an inherently less safe, slower and less convenient way to load a tube fed magazine.   I realize that you can work around it, by being very careful.  I own a Henry Goldenboy and love it.  When I shoot it, I am very careful not to let any part of my hand cross the muzzle while removing or reinserting the follower.  From what I have seen online, most shooters are not so careful.   
 
But the fact remains, a gun that requires you to stick your hand up by the muzzle when loading it (and in most videos I see, the shooters pass their hand across the muzzle) is an inferior design. I would prefer a rifle that does not tend to encourage bad safety habits like losing fear and respect for the muzzle or thinking "it's not loaded".  IMHO, those habits can spread.  A shooter might not  negligently shoot himself or someone with the Herny, but if you lose fear of the muzzle and get in the habit of thinking "it's not loaded" it can make you more dangerous with ALL your guns. 
 
 I  understand them keeping it to keep their rifles more historically accurate, but since they are coming out with all sorts of new fangled lever guns, that are way outside the original Henry tradition, why not also make some with some late 19th Century features?   
 
I am not saying people shouldn't buy Henrys.  They are a great company that makes great rifles.  I am just saying, I personally, greatly prefer a side loading gate.  It would make a great product even better.


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Posted November 04 2016 - 09:08 PM

She is a beauty:)  Think of getting one too!


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Posted December 30 2016 - 10:59 AM

So did you shoot it yet how she run. I was thinking of getting the marlin guide gun in 45-70 but the Henry looks so good.


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Posted December 30 2016 - 11:39 AM

So did you shoot it yet how she run. I was thinking of getting the marlin guide gun in 45-70 but the Henry looks so good.


For Destro a 45-70 is the equivalent of a .22lr. For us, mere mortals, its a shoulder bruiser....
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Posted December 30 2016 - 11:44 AM

Looks awesome



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Posted December 30 2016 - 05:32 PM

I lit off a few 45-70 from my Case color Henry A week ago or so upstate. Was like a 20 gauge shot gun. But I am not a petite size either.  I would think twice before letting a skinny sixteen year old rip one thou.........



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Posted December 30 2016 - 08:13 PM

The T/C Encore .460 S&W Magnum with the 20" barrel seemed to recoil/kick much harder than the 45-70 Marlin I used for one hunting season.
The Henry 45-70 is a nice leveraction, I might be buying one.

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Posted December 31 2016 - 01:45 PM

So I'm guessing you're not a huge musket fan...

 

Again, my point is that it is an inherently less safe, slower and less convenient way to load a tube fed magazine.   I realize that you can work around it, by being very careful.  I own a Henry Goldenboy and love it.  When I shoot it, I am very careful not to let any part of my hand cross the muzzle while removing or reinserting the follower.  From what I have seen online, most shooters are not so careful.   

 

But the fact remains, a gun that requires you to stick your hand up by the muzzle when loading it (and in most videos I see, the shooters pass their hand across the muzzle) is an inferior design. I would prefer a rifle that does not tend to encourage bad safety habits like losing fear and respect for the muzzle or thinking "it's not loaded".  IMHO, those habits can spread.  A shooter might not  negligently shoot himself or someone with the Herny, but if you lose fear of the muzzle and get in the habit of thinking "it's not loaded" it can make you more dangerous with ALL your guns. 

 

 I  understand them keeping it to keep their rifles more historically accurate, but since they are coming out with all sorts of new fangled lever guns, that are way outside the original Henry tradition, why not also make some with some late 19th Century features?   

 

I am not saying people shouldn't buy Henrys.  They are a great company that makes great rifles.  I am just saying, I personally, greatly prefer a side loading gate.  It would make a great product even better. 



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Posted January 14 2017 - 01:10 AM

That is absolutely SWEEEEET!     

 

 

 

ProgodProgun...,

If you put a tube loader next to a side gate loader (that you say you prefer), the tube loader can be loaded quicker 9 times out of ten.  I've doen this test several tiems with both experienced users of both, and with folks only experience with the side loading gate.

 

In addition, most people don't realize you can shoot lever guns much faster than bolt guns.

 

So in actuality, lever guns do make good home defense guns if a pistol is not in place.  But as somebody hilariously posted above, do you have Buffalo's breaking into your house???  ;)


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Posted January 14 2017 - 01:15 AM

very nice, love lever actions .I'm after the long ranger, henry makes beautiful rifles

 

Me too!   I want the 308 Long Ranger, that thing looks really nice.  Its supposedly one of the most accurate shooting 308's around.

 


 

I totally get what you are saying, but again, I don't ever want to start thinking "There's nothing in the chamber". I don't want to muzzle my hand especially at a range where I have been loading and firing. What if I didn't' realize I had one in the chamber?

As I said, I will probably buy one someday, but it would be so much better, IMHO, if Henry would start selling rifles with side loading gates. It is a far superior technology, and would make the choice pretty much a no-brainer over Marlin and Rossi.. I know they have tried to be more true to the design of the original Henry Rifles, but with the exception of the Henry Original Rifle they started making a few years ago, they were never really that close in design to the original ones.

Plus, they are now making these non-traditional (and great looking) All Weather models and are even making Long Ranger lever guns with detachable magazines that shoot .223, .243 and .308. If they can break that far from tradition, why not make some with side loading gates?

 

I HATE side loading gates!   How many times have you gotten your fingers caught in there?   Rounds stuck and jammed in there?  Then, during a cease fire, or at the end of the day hunting, how do you get the 7 or 8 rounds out of the side gate??   you can't, you have to work the action and spit them out into the dirt.  I on the other hand just dump them out the tube in 2 seconds.



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Posted January 14 2017 - 01:16 AM

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Actually picked up a Henry Big Boy carbine in .357/.38 special a week later from LI Ammo (Kim drives a hard bargain!)

 

A really sick lever. Octagon Barrel, 16" length, big loop, beautiful polished brass finish in .357. I'm in love. Will have another set of pics up on this beauty when I have the time (if only I had more time LOL).

 

Pick up a leather lever wrap from Bobs leather works (google it).  Takes 10 minutes to put on, and makes that big loop real comfy!


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