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Election Exhaustion and Anger

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#1 set2374

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Posted October 13 2016 - 05:15 PM

Hey guys,

I don't know about you, but we are 26 days out from the election and I feel sick to my stomach--like a dark cloud is hanging over me. I have always had a strong interest in politics, but I never felt that any prior presidential election would be "life or death" for our country. This one is different. The thought of Hillary Clinton becoming our next president sends chills up and down my spine. That woman doesn't have a single redeeming quality. In the past few days we have learned that her advisers have plans to foment a "Catholic Spring" to undermine traditional christian values. They have contempt for anyone that has faith--unless that faith happens to embrace left wing values. There is no end to their arrogance. Worse still, they have no respect for our constitutional rights. We all know how they fee about the second amendment, but their gun grabbing dreams are old news dating back to FDR. Now, it just seems like the world has been upside down. The hero is the guy that protests the flag. The victim is the criminal that is shot by a cop in self-defense. Freedom of speech only exists to the extent that speech is approved as politically correct by the left. They have been able to shame americans into believe that if they support the enforcement of immigration laws they are xenophones or if they support law enforcement they are racist. If you question plans to allow syrian refugees into this country, you're an Islamophobe and if you oppose affirmative action you're a bigot. The left is downright scary!!!

Now, Hillary Clinton isn't really that far to the left---she is a tool for Wall Street, but she'll say anything and do anything for power and money, which makes her dangerous in her own way since she has no principle and certainly or moral compass. She'll give the left their social agenda, so long as she gets to use government for her personal gain. Imagine the damage she can do with a democratically controlled senate and a left wing majority on the Court? Who will be able to stop her? Not the FBI??? Not the DOJ???? The left will get the welfare state they have been craving and we won't be able to do anything to stop it. They'll dominate education and cram left wing values down our kids' throats and we can't stop it. They'll eviscerate our military because "love trumps hate" and we can't stop them.

At the same time, I am furious with Trump. He had to know these tapes (and others like them) were out there. What did he think was going to happen? Instead of discussing HRC's treason and the FBI and DOJ's complacency with that treason, we are stuck talking about Trumps outrageous comments and groping of women (which I am sure he did do to some women, even if not to that old geezer that was interviewed by the NYT). Our national election has become a reality tv show and we are all participants on "Survivor: The USA Edition". How sad is it that Donald Trump has to be our savior from a world dominated by the Clinton cartel? Seriously, how many of you watched Mike Pence's debate performance last week and said, "God, I wish he were on the top of our ticket"?? Wasn't it refreshing to see a serious discussion of issues that matter? There is a man that has principles. Pence can articulate my value system and explain why we need a conservative to right this ship. If Trump really cared about this country, he would step down--which will never happen. Don't get me wrong, I am voting for Trump because I agree with many of his positions and because we need conservative judges to save our constitution, but both campaigns have really debased our country.

I do believe in the power of prayer. Can you please pray with me for the future our country and for the legacy we leave to our children?

--Steve
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Posted October 13 2016 - 05:52 PM

Hey guys,......


At the same time, I am furious with Trump. He had to know these tapes (and others like them) were out there. What did he think was going to happen?

--Steve


You can't be furious at Trump. Be furious at the irrational Republican voters who cast ballots for him in the primary despite warnings that what we see unfolding is what you would get. I and many others on here devoted hours of chatter as to what a mistake it would be to run Trump against Hillary.

Back in April, Trump polled worse than the 4 top Republicans head to head against Hillary. Any other normal Republican would be 8 points ahead right now considering the Clinton unfavorably numbers and continuing scandals. An epic fail the party may never recover from.
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Posted October 13 2016 - 06:17 PM

Many people are frustrated with the the state of affairs and the gubmint I'm general.
Frustrated to the point where they do irrational things, like vote for Trump. Given the state of affairs we still have to vote for someone and on this sorry case all we have is Trump.
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Posted October 13 2016 - 06:58 PM

We really need a do over they both suck. I'm not voting for Trump I'm voting against Hillary and it's sad I have to use my vote that way
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Posted October 13 2016 - 07:06 PM

when the RNC spends ZERO DOLLARS on ads promoting the GOP presidential candidate, but yet asks for him to raise money for the party then you Trump haters should open yours eyes and shut your mouths, you're as bad as that A-HOLE Paul Ryan.
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Posted October 13 2016 - 07:16 PM

Many many people have been falsely accused of sexual misconduct. Just gold diggers. A black women accused me at work, and the charges were dismissed. Then I sued her for slander, and won $10,000. But she declared bankruptcy, and moved out of state. So I couldn't collect.
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Posted October 13 2016 - 07:41 PM

You can't be furious at Trump. Be furious at the irrational Republican voters who cast ballots for him in the primary despite warnings that what we see unfolding is what you would get. I and many others on here devoted hours of chatter as to what a mistake it would be to run Trump against Hillary.

Back in April, Trump polled worse than the 4 top Republicans head to head against Hillary. Any other normal Republican would be 8 points ahead right now considering the Clinton unfavorably numbers and continuing scandals. An epic fail the party may never recover from.

I am praying our country will recover from them
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Posted October 13 2016 - 07:42 PM

when the RNC spends ZERO DOLLARS on ads promoting the GOP presidential candidate, but yet asks for him to raise money for the party then you Trump haters should open yours eyes and shut your mouths, you're as bad as that A-HOLE Paul Ryan.


Shutting my mouth? Never. I'm riding the "I told you so" Train. Woo woo!

Your boy Trump personally insults and ridicules his GOP rivals and then expects them to support him.

Nobody, when this fiasco plays out, is going to bear any blame for this other than the gullible who thought Trump would actually "wipe the stage with Hillary at the debates". Great prediction.
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Posted October 13 2016 - 07:43 PM

I cringe every time he opens his mouth. He offends people even when he's not trying to.Personally, I'm putting my tin foil hat on and saying that he's got a nice cabinet position or payoff coming from Hillary.Its a joke. She is just counting the days till she makes history.The media is so totally helping her. I want to puke watching CNN. They don't even attempt to hide anymore. As gun owners we are screwed. The SAFE act and other 2nd amd issues will not be going our way. He should just step down and let Pence be the candidate. We would have a better chance of winning. The bigger fear is what this election will do to the congressional races. This country will become a progressive liberal utopia. I can't even think about it. We shot ourselves in the foot on this one.

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Posted October 13 2016 - 08:03 PM

Cruz was a viable option. Just saying.
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Posted October 13 2016 - 08:06 PM

Even assuming the allegations are true that should qualify him for President...aftrer all the darling of the left Bill Clinton did worse!!
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Posted October 13 2016 - 08:55 PM

Who care what he said or did 10 or 15 years a ago being a pig is not a crime and he could have changed but the crimes the Clintons committed have no expiration dates murder is murder and rape is rape and how about Hillary's Bimbo squad that was used to slander all these women.
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Posted October 14 2016 - 06:53 AM

Shutting my mouth? Never. I'm riding the "I told you so" Train. Woo woo!

Your boy Trump personally insults and ridicules his GOP rivals and then expects them to support him.

Nobody, when this fiasco plays out, is going to bear any blame for this other than the gullible who thought Trump would actually "wipe the stage with Hillary at the debates". Great prediction.


My "boy" as you call him is not a GOP rival of Paul Ryan for the nomination, Ryan is the face of the establishment GOP, he should either back up the GOP nominee or STFU and not run out to media outlets and try to cozy up to them so the media doesn't go after him.....Ryan wouldn't know how to defend himself so he goes out there to be the POS that he is, no leadership qualities just a "yes sir biatch" to Obarry. .
And I don't expect Bush who wasted 52 MILLION dollars of rich folks money who thought he was a shoe in for the nominee to support Trump...and I wouldn't want him too.
Bush, Mcain, Romney,....those are the A-HOLES who got us into this position. -globalist a-holes who couldnt give a crap about you, me, or anyone else who isn't part of their corrupt little team of globalist.

And ask yourself:

WHY ISNT THE RNC SPENDING THE MONEY TRUMP RAISED FOR THEM TO RUN ADS FOR HIM DURING THIS ELECTION>>???
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Posted October 14 2016 - 07:09 AM

The media and RINO have done everything possible to not support Trump. We have many people who may go out and vote Trump.
Let's hope that fat slob Michael Moore is right!
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Posted October 14 2016 - 08:03 AM

At this time we are not voting for a President where voting for the Supreme Court Picks. This will be the most important choice America makes. Chunky Crooked Hillary gets in she same as Obama but worst Bad decisions , against the Constitution and total Corruption with the Supreme court in her favor. Trump gets in maybe we have a chance he'll be guided to do the right thing. Hillary NO CHANCE! Yes I'm sick to can't wait for this circus to be over. The media and the Clinton Machine had this all planned out the full attack would have happened to any Republican. The Media even Fox with Megan Kelly (she won't let go) is so one sided if Trump wins they would be pushing for impeachment from day one with stories.

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Posted October 14 2016 - 02:48 PM

At this time we are not voting for a President where voting for the Supreme Court Picks. This will be the most important choice America makes. Chunky Crooked Hillary gets in she same as Obama but worst Bad decisions , against the Constitution and total Corruption with the Supreme court in her favor. Trump gets in maybe we have a chance he'll be guided to do the right thing. Hillary NO CHANCE! Yes I'm sick to can't wait for this circus to be over. The media and the Clinton Machine had this all planned out the full attack would have happened to any Republican. The Media even Fox with Megan Kelly (she won't let go) is so one sided if Trump wins they would be pushing for impeachment from day one with stories.


I agree. I am voting for a conservative court and to keep hillary out of the oval office. If he manages to squeak out a victory (god willing), I will pray that trump doesn't f--- things up. There's a big difference between running a privately held company that you have complete control over and a country where you have to deal with a senate, house, judiciary etc. that don't have to do what you want them to do and have their own agendas. Trump isn't exactly getting an award for playing well with others. I suppose that's why the Trumpettes love him, but it's not a recipe for getting things done in washington.
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Posted October 14 2016 - 06:44 PM

Funniest thing I have heard yet was Lebron James stating there is no locker room talk he ever heard like Trump stated he was using when referring to some women 12 years ago. Lebron says" We don't disrespect women like that" HA HA HA. No you athletes dispense with the sweet talk and jump right to the beating of your women. What a bunch of hypocrites. I half expect this from a guy who would be hard pressed to earn minimum wage if he couldn't dribble a ball but man really???Not only do you beat them but then you are welcomed back to your team with open arms as long as you can help them.
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Posted October 14 2016 - 11:04 PM

My "boy" as you call him is not a GOP rival of Paul Ryan for the nomination, Ryan is the face of the establishment GOP, he should either back up the GOP nominee or STFU and not run out to media outlets and try to cozy up to them so the media doesn't go after him.....Ryan wouldn't know how to defend himself so he goes out there to be the POS that he is, no leadership qualities just a "yes sir biatch" to Obarry. .
And I don't expect Bush who wasted 52 MILLION dollars of rich folks money who thought he was a shoe in for the nominee to support Trump...and I wouldn't want him too.
Bush, Mcain, Romney,....those are the A-HOLES who got us into this position. -globalist a-holes who couldnt give a crap about you, me, or anyone else who isn't part of their corrupt little team of globalist.

And ask yourself:

WHY ISNT THE RNC SPENDING THE MONEY TRUMP RAISED FOR THEM TO RUN ADS FOR HIM DURING THIS ELECTION>>???


So if Trump just had a few more commercials and bumper stickers paid for by the RNC he'd be ahead right now? All the incredibly stupid stuff Trump has said (between sucking snot back up his nose) will just be smoothed over with an "I like Donald" button on Ryans' lapel? C'mon, Trump was beloved because he wouldn't need anybody's crooked money, and could pay for his own campaign. Now he DOES need establishment money?

Let me give the political reality. Nobody is going to throw bad money after good. Trump's flame is growing dimmer and the ONLY hope for America to survive the next 4 years is to have majorities in Congress who can stonewall Hitlery's appointments and legislation. A savvy person would rather RNC money go GOP congressional candidates in tight races who have a chance of winning.
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Posted October 15 2016 - 05:01 PM

To the OP, I do not feel sick or have a dark cloud over me. Although there is a dark cloud over America, since at least 2008. We are in a post-constitutional period that may well lead to the final decline of this once great nation. Historically, Republics have not been the most successful & long-lived forms of government, monarchies and empires have had far longer periods of success. Wishing it were otherwise is all-well-and-good, but history is history.

Also, historically, regardless of the form of government that exists, it has been the use of force (not the ballot box) that has more often been the deciding factor what type of government is in charge and their policies.

We currently have a Roman Senate rather than a Congress of the people and a Socialist Emperor rather than a President. The decay and corruption is massive. The choice now is do we elect another thoroughly corrupted Socialist Emperor (The Wicked Witch of the Left) or a reformist minded Emperor (The Donald).

Not surprising to me, the entrenched globalist-corporatist-socialist establishment (which includes 95%+ of the main-stream media) does not support TRUMP. If he gets in they know he is going to not only secure our border and champion Americanism he is going to flip over a bunch of rocks and we are going to see all the slimy things that has been growing in the dark. If The Donald wins it is going to be like turning on a light and we will see all the two-legged cockroaches try to hide.

This election is very simple. Anyone who does not vote for TRUMP is voting to allow the Wicked Witch to win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeiNkwClo1I

One of the biggest contributing factors to the collapse of the Roman Republic was corruption in the government. Previously a democracy, Rome moved away from a government by the people and increasingly put power into the hands of a select, wealthy few. Only the rich could become magistrates, and the votes of wealthy citizens had more weight than the votes of the common people. Wealthy individuals could practically buy senate seats.

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Posted October 15 2016 - 08:58 PM

This election is very simple. Anyone who does not vote for TRUMP is voting to allow the Wicked Witch to win.



Don't for a second believe that people who wish to hold accountable those supporters who put Trump as the nominee are advocating voting for someone else, or to not vote at all. Not by any means.

Those who saw this debacle coming are only looking to avoid delusional blame shifting and a repeat of this fiasco 4 years from now. It was a major blunder for the Dems to run Hillary, and the only way she could win is to run someone more unlikable, which we did. Pointing that out isn't campaigning against Trump in the general election.




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