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#21 Captain Will

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Posted December 14 2015 - 09:58 AM

If PJAN is actually charging more than $10 for the background check (for NYS) then they are violating NYS law and I don't know why anybody here is defending that or criticizing the OP for stating it.It is quite POSSIBLE the OP got the two charges reversed, and the $25 is the long gun transfer fee, $10 for the background check.

It is also possible that they are charging $10 for a NYS background check and stacking that with $15 for a Federal background check- I'm not sure ATF prohibits a charge on NICS or what the legality would be of charging for both,m I'm not an attorney.

NYS law seems to be pretty clear, do it for $10 or don't sell the gun, dealer's option.

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#22 Trailblazer

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Posted December 14 2015 - 10:01 AM

Take the misleading post down!
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#23 lynyrd

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Posted December 14 2015 - 10:18 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong. But New York is pretty clear on fines for traffic violations which are now drenched in surcharges. No?

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If PJAN is actually charging more than $10 for the background check (for NYS) then they are violating NYS law and I don't know why anybody here is defending that or criticizing the OP for stating it.It is quite POSSIBLE the OP got the two charges reversed, and the $25 is the long gun transfer fee, $10 for the background check.

It is also possible that they are charging $10 for a NYS background check and stacking that with $15 for a Federal background check- I'm not sure ATF prohibits a charge on NICS or what the legality would be of charging for both,m I'm not an attorney.

NYS law seems to be pretty clear, do it for $10 or don't sell the gun, dealer's option.


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#24 firemanvin

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Posted December 14 2015 - 10:28 AM

The allowable amount should be increased to $100, reimbursed by New York State, and added to the cost of the dysfunctional "SAFE-Act". Let the morons taxpayers that voted in Cuomo and his flunkies pay for the transfers.

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Posted December 14 2015 - 10:34 AM

I think it is how the FFL interprets the law. A year ago I bought a rifle from another LIF'er, PJAN wanted $35 to do the transfer,no big deal, but I had to wait a day to pick up the rifle. They were transferring the rifle into their bound book and then out again , hence the 24 hour wait. I called up Suffolk Sportsman in Smithton and went there. All they did was make the call to the NICS system after I filled out the 4473,which is I believe the letter of the SAFE act law.Also charged $10.

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Posted December 14 2015 - 11:05 AM

The allowable amount should be increased to $100, reimbursed by New York State, and added to the cost of the dysfunctional "SAFE-Act". Let the morons taxpayers that voted in Cuomo and his flunkies pay for the transfers.


I'm all with you on the dissatisfaction with NYSAFE, that's beside the point however. With the ammo transfers, some LGS are doing it for FREE in opposition to NYS, why not $10 per bullet?
OP made an advisory post, lest someone expected to pay $10 was charged $25 instead, and immediately a bunch of guys ganged up on him. PJAN could be my best friends, the fact is if they are charging $25 for what NYS stipulates a maximum of $10 for, then they are breaking the law. AND the they are "overcharging" just like the title says.Why all the hostility towards the OP?


I have a SUSPICION this will turn out to be a communication error and the OP somehow got the numbers transposed ($25 for book-juggling and $10 for NICS) but until PJAN or somebody knowledgeable on their policy weighs in, criticisms of OP are (IMO) unwarranted.
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Posted December 14 2015 - 11:10 AM

Actually don't mind whatever they charge. Only complaint I have is when I bring in a gun to be transferred to a buyer, they make the buyer come back the next day. Very inconvenient for the buyer.
Jerry's does the transfer while you wait.

Edited by hawkeye, December 14 2015 - 11:11 AM.


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Posted December 14 2015 - 11:24 AM

Does the law not say "Maximum of $10"?
I have no doubts the dealer would lose money at that rate and that part sucks; kind of like vehicle safety /emissions inspections.
I think DSI stopped doing p2p because of this. The last transfer I did was free @ Benson's... ;)For the record I think if a dealer can't to it for $10 (if that's actually what the law says) they should not do those transfers. Maybe then would more people step up and voice their disgust with these NY laws.

Edited by DIRTBIKEZ, December 14 2015 - 11:31 AM.


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Posted December 14 2015 - 11:40 AM

Governments set maximum charges in a lot of spheres in commerce. (Lawyers believe it or not have maximum fees set by the state for certain services).

Charging more than $10 for a FTF transfer under SAFE is illegal, however, the doofuses who wrote the law didn't assign a penalty level for violating it. It is possible that the NY Attorney General can eventually sue the offending FFL's who overcharged to make them cough up the overcharges, and tack on interest.

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Posted December 14 2015 - 11:48 AM

Everyone hates socialism until it benefits them.

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Posted December 14 2015 - 12:30 PM

Benson's charged me $10. No storage fees, no tacked on fees. And they were true to their word.
My biggest complaint is having to go to PD HQ twice.


That is true. Bensons is the only local that is charging what they are supposed to charge. I've transferred a lot of firearms through them. But they wouldn't touch certain things like AR lowers, saigas with converted tg, or SKSs with bayonets.





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