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   <title>Penalties</title>
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   <description><![CDATA[I'm curious here just for argument's sake.&nbsp;&nbsp;We talk and hear endlessly about 922r compliance, magazine under 10 rounds, folding stocks, adjustable stocks, flash hiders.&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm just curious.&nbsp;&nbsp;How does this work?<br /><br />Let's say little Bobby Bloomberg is down at calverton with his saiga 762 x 39.&nbsp;&nbsp;He puts a preban 30 rounder in there.&nbsp;&nbsp;Along comes Mr. Leo who dumps all the parts all over the bench and starts counting.&nbsp;&nbsp;He identifies more than 10 non-u.s. parts.&nbsp;&nbsp;What happens?&nbsp;&nbsp;Does he just seize the weapon?&nbsp;&nbsp;Does he arrest little Bobby?&nbsp;&nbsp;Does Bobby get to call Uncle Mike to get him off?<br /><br />Another example.&nbsp;&nbsp;Little Matthew McCarthy is over at Mitchell field.&nbsp;&nbsp;He has a adjustable stock on his AR.&nbsp;&nbsp;After berating him for not owning an AK, does the LEO arrest him, seize the weapon, issue a citation?&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />Just curious.&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm not advocating breaking the rules.]]></description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 2 Sep 2010 15:24:58</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>The Robfather</dc:creator>
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   <title>next gen kill house</title>
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   <description><![CDATA[<a href="http://kotaku.com/5625846/building-the-perfect-kill-house-with-video-games" target='_new'>http://kotaku.com/5625846/building-the-perfect-kill-house-with-video-games</a>]]></description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 2 Sep 2010 15:05:14</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>TactiDork</dc:creator>
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   <title>the man who invented video games knew his guns</title>
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   <description><![CDATA[<a href="http://kotaku.com/5628722/the-man-who-invented-home-video-games-knew-his-guns" target='_new'>http://kotaku.com/5628722/the-man-who-invented-home-video-games-knew-his-guns</a><br />]]></description>
   <pubDate>Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:56:04</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>TactiDork</dc:creator>
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   <title>Top 10 Mall Ninja guns</title>
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   <description><![CDATA[Just The Facts<br /><br /><ul><li>Mall ninjas were first introduced to society in 1913 with the introduction of the picatinny rail. Obviously there were no mall ninjas in the 1500s, as the Arquebus had no rails. <br />It has been well documented that Jesus and Moses fought off the Romans using AK-47s. Just watch Family Guy. <br />It's possible the first fictional mall ninja depicted on film was Rambo, who wielded a belt fed machine gun in every film to detract from his steroid filled muscles.<br /></li></ul><br /> <br />#10 - Automatic Assault-12 (AA-12) shotgun <br />The first gun on our list is the Automatic Assault-12 (AA-12) shotgun, also known as the scariest device on Earth to the ATF:<br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i37.tinypic.com/xdvz9z.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />You may have seen this beast on FutureWeapons, or maybe during one of those Youtube quests everybody's had at least once in their life. And I'm sure you thought it was hot mess. I mean, it's a drum fed, fully automatic shotgun! What's not to love? It fires buckshot, slugs, birdshot, flares, less-lethal rounds, and Frag-12 rounds. You know, shotgun rounds that explode on impact! And it has a low recoil system so your shoulder doesn't take a Mike Tyson punch from 20 rounds.<br /><br />Here's the problem... it's a shotgun. The ammunition and the magazines that house it are huge. The 10 round magazine is a big as a brick. The 20 round drum is as bulky as Rosie O'Donnell. You'll be lucky if you can carry more than two or three spare magazines, tops. And the weapon is firing these rounds on full-auto. Do the math on this one, full-auto, 20 rounds. That about a good five seconds of donkey-kicking fun. But once your unstoppable beheamoth runs dry, you're boned. And the truth is, you don't *need* to send that much shotgun spew down range. The shotgun is a close range single purpose weapon. Trying to make it a multi-purpose assault weapon is like trying to make a cookie out of cat-crap. It might look like a cookie, but it still tastes like cat crap.<br /><br />Oh, but lets not forget the HAMMER system! Oh yeah, lets slap two of these together, mount them upside down, and remotely fire them from the top of a vehicle:<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i34.tinypic.com/1113spj.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />GREAT idea. Except when those 40 rounds are done in about ten seconds and you now have a nice roof ornament. If you're in combat, chances are you don't want to poke your head out and reload these things.<br /><br />#9 - Heckler &amp; Koch MP7A1 <br />The next weapon on our list is the Heckler &amp; Koch MP7A1, the personal defense weapon of the future:<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i37.tinypic.com/2lxkdy.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />Ooh, so sexy, sleak, and tacti-cool. I'm sure you've heard nothing but A+ reviews on the MP7A1. I mean, it's an HK weapon, there's no such thing as bad publicity for them right? Maybe that's because THEY control their publicity. And being a civilian, you've probably never even seen one of these in person before. Because you suck, and HK hates you. Look under the gun, it says so under the foregrip. Oh wait! You can't, because you can't see the gun!<br /><br />Now the MP7A1 is basically a big "fudge you" to the guys at FN-USA. After they built the FN P90, that really cool PDW in 5.7x28mm...:<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i34.tinypic.com/2vmsqjl.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />...they felt small in the pants and had to retaliate. So they built a new bullet, the underpowered 4.6x30mm, because god forbid anyone has some form of conveniance and can use readily available ammunition, and released the MP7A1. Thanks to FutureWeapons and Rainbow Six: Vegas, you probably love this weapon. It's not a mutual relationship, and the gun is a whore. Find a new piece and move on... let Woody Harrelson enjoy it.<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i33.tinypic.com/n3ngpe.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />#8 - Glock 18 <br />Next on the list is the Glock 18, tupperware machine pistol:<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i35.tinypic.com/11i0ewx.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a Glock-hater. Toss it in the ocean and watch it continue to operate. Run it over with a truck and watch it still fire. Glocks are cool. But there is a point when one takes coolness too far. In this case, that point is the Glock 18. Basically, good ol' Gaston Glock decided to take his pistol design, and make it capable of firing at 1300rpm. Sounds good in theory, works horrible in practice. Do you know why the tortoise beat the hare? Because when something is faster, it sucks. <br /><br />Unfortunately no one will be able to do more than duly note what I'm saying here. Why? Because Gunnery Sergeant R. Lee Ermey will kick your butt if you don't love Glock. Semper Fi!<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i37.tinypic.com/650a42.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />#7 - Magpul FMG-9 <br />Up next is the same gun in a new plastic shell, the Magpul Folding Machine Gun-9 or FMG-9:<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i33.tinypic.com/2uoj8ty.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />The Magpul FMG-9, the deadliest toolbox on the market...<br /><br />Now this gun is a double-mall ninja weapon. Not only is it a folding machine gun, it's housing a -- Glock 18!<br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i34.tinypic.com/sv2wl0.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />Now, what is the marketing ploy on this weapon? I highly doubt any civilians can buy it (since, you know, it's a machine gun that folds up like a tool-box) yet who else would legally use it? Police? Military? Who needs to look inconspicious in such a scenario? The enemy might suspect something if all our soldiers are walking around with toolboxes. But hey, it has a flashlight on it too incase you need to see in the dark when you sneak up and kill someone with your lunchbox gun.<br /><br />#6 - Stoeger Double Defense Coach shotgun <br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i38.tinypic.com/30bpcms.png" alt="" /><br /><br />What a surprise, it has rails.<br /><br />This gun is proof you can make anything tacti-cool if you put picatinny rails on it. I mean, what next? Muskets with EOTech sights and Surefire lights? What more is there to say? All it needs is a faux-M203 flare launcher mounted on it and the universe will finally collapse on itself.<br /><br />#5 - KBP Instrument Design Bureau PP-2000 <br />Next is the KBP IDB PP-2000 submachine gun:<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i34.tinypic.com/144czfq.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />If you're laughing because the acronym has PP in it... so am I.<br /><br />If you aren't completely tongue-tied by that mile long jumble of acronyms, you're probably wondering what this ugly little bastard is. It's Russia's answer to the PDW. It's small, fires 9mm, and has controllable recoil. They also designed a +P+ 9mm round to fire in it so it could take a huge dump on H&amp;K and FN-USA's PDW designs. So, it's *kinda* cool. But it's stock is either a wire stock or a spare magazine. If you opt to use the wire stock, you're now carrying one less spare mag. If you opt to use the spare magazine as the stock, when you use that spare mag, now you have no stock. This mind fudge alone is enough to make any operator go crazy:<br /><br />Solution - use neither the stock or the spare magazine. Extra mall ninja points for firing it with one hand and a bent elbow.<br /><br />#4 - Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher <br />Here's something every mall ninja's AR-15 needs, a Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher:<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i38.tinypic.com/2mmiza1.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />On the top is the real 40mm M203, on the bottom is the faux-M203, a 39mm flare launching phony.<br /><br />Obviously the Cobray flare launcher looks a lot like the M203 grenade launcher. Film makers agree, you may have seen they substitute the M203 with this thing all the time. But what is the point of this device, truly? Does one attach it to his AR-15 so when he accidentally twists his ankle while deer hunting he can fire a flare into the air for help? No, he attaches it because it looks like a really cool grenade launcher. And who knows, maybe it'll scare off Smokey the Bear when he comes to kick your butt for burning down the forest with that flare.<br /><br />#3 - Mossberg Cruiser variants <br />Third on the list is the Mossberg "Cruiser" variants:<br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i34.tinypic.com/2cfdx6t.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />A Mossberg 590 "Cruiser" with a door breacher muzzle break. You know, so you can breach some doors in your own house...<br /><br />Don't let its innocent looks fool you, this weapon is a major mall ninja offender. Most people start off with a standard Mossberg 500/590 shotgun. Then they get bored with it. "Eh, I'll slap a pistol grip on it." Now it's pretty damn cool, right? "Hmm, it needs a heat shield. I burn my thumb so badly when I fire off hundreds of rounds at insurgents in my backyard." Now you have a Cruiser, baby! Now comes the 1-point tactical sling, the pump sling, and the door breacher muzzle. Also, buy some copper shot shotgun shells so you can safely breach door locks. Since its a home defense gun, you'll be breaching your own doors but who cares?! You're an operator now dammit!<br /><br />#2 - Smith &amp; Wesson Model 500 <br />Ironically number 2 on the list is the Smith &amp; Wesson Model 500:<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i33.tinypic.com/21dla1y.jpg" alt="" /><br />Dirty Harry shrinks in stature...<br /><br />What mall ninja wouldn't want to own this beast? It is *the* most powerful production revolver available on the market. Firing five massive .500 S&amp;W Magnum rounds, you will discover very quickly that bears DO crap in the woods, mainly out of fear of being shot by this piece. And not only is it 100% lethal to those on the recieving end, it's pretty lethal to the person firing it too.&nbsp;&nbsp;People have had their thumbs severed by the gas exhaust from the cylinder gap. And eyes have been blinded by poorly mounted scopes following Newton's second law devoutly. Basically the gun hates you and the enemy:<br /><br />Warning! Heavy recoil may cause loss of testicles.<br /><br />The worste part about this gun? It's falsely holding a position it doesn't have. Many believe this gun to be the most powerful handgun in the world. It's not. It's the most powerful PRODUCTION handgun in the world. That's because the real rightful owner of this label is the Pfeifer-Zeliska .600 Nitro revolver. It's also the largest handgun in the world, and cannot physically be fired free-hand.<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i34.tinypic.com/rvj3fd.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />Here's your BFG right here...<br /><br />And for dramatic effect, here's a guy firing the gun from a rest. Amazingly, he survived.<br /><br />You cannot blame him for experiencing magnum flinch, just look at the gun!<br /><br />#1 - Desert Eagle <br />Last and certainly least on the list is the Desert Eagle:<br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://i37.tinypic.com/2dmbhoz.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />Proof you can polish a turd. And plate it in 24k gold...<br /><br />Every mall ninja has a "Deagle" as their sidearm, it's a rule. Who cares that it weighs five pounds, is unreliable, and has massive recoil? Mickey Rourke in "Year of the Dragon", Arnold Schwarzenegger in "Last Action Hero", The Agents in "The Matrix series" and Demi Moore in "Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle". Cinema has done an excellent job of making the Desert Eagle look like the baddest handgun in the world. And hey, you just pwned five noobs on COD4 with it. AND got it gold plated. But that's fiction. In real life you buy one, your hands get tired after holding it for five minutes, you piss away tons of money on a small amount of .50 AE ammo, bruise your hands firing it, miss every can you set up for targets, spend 10 minutes trying to fix the stove-pipe stoppage it had, and then finally sell it for a nice 1911 instead<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description>
   <pubDate>Wed, 1 Sep 2010 22:28:21</pubDate>
   <dc:creator>Pate</dc:creator>
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   <title>Ruger and Carhartt Team Up for Free Jacket Promo</title>
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   <description><![CDATA[Ruger and Carhartt Team Up AGAIN for Free Jacket Promotion <br /><br /><img class="imgcode" src="http://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Ruger-and-Carhartt-Free-Jacket-Promotion.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />Southport, CT - Sturm, Ruger &amp; Co., Inc. (NYSE: RGR) is proud to announce the return of the very popular free jacket promotion, once again combining two great American companies with reputations for building rugged and reliable products.<br /><br />Between September 1, 2010 and December 31, 2010, customers who purchase any new, American-made Ruger bolt-action rifle will receive a free Ruger-branded, American-made Carhartt jacket.<br /><br />The 2010 jacket is based on the Duck Active Jac and has been made specifically for Ruger in the United States. It boasts12-ounce, firm-hand, 100% ring-spun cotton duck with a 100% polyester thermal lining for on-the-job warmth. It includes a thermal-lined hood, rib-knit cuffs and waist, two large hand-warmer pockets, two convenient inside pockets, and triple-stitched main seams. Made in America. Available in sizes small through XXXL, the jacket has a $75.00 retail value.<br /><br />Redemption of the free Ruger-branded Carhartt jacket is easy – simply fill out the redemption coupon found at your local firearm retailer and mail it in along with a copy of the sales receipt. Redemption coupons can also be downloaded at <a href="http://www.ruger.com/Carhartt" target='_new'>http://www.ruger.com/Carhartt</a>, where you will also find complete promotion details and a copy of the official Terms and Conditions. Offer is for purchases of new Ruger rifles only, and is not valid on rifles previously sold at retail.<br /><br />Ruger offers a large selection of bolt-action rifles, including the vast M77 Hawkeye line, as well the M77 Mark II Target, M77 Mark II Magnum, 77/17, 77/22 and 77/44 models. With 115 offerings in 31 different calibers and an assortment of stock configurations, finishes and barrel lengths, there is a Ruger bolt-action rifle to meet every shooter’s needs. For complete information on the extensive line of American-made Ruger firearms, visit <a href="http://www.ruger.com" target='_new'>http://www.ruger.com</a>. To learn more about the full line of Carhartt clothing and merchandise, visit <a href="http://www.carhartt.com" target='_new'>http://www.carhartt.com</a><br />]]></description>
   <pubDate>Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:55:39</pubDate>
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