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Get the latest facts on the new NY SAFE gun laws that effect you!

NY SAFE ACT FACT SHEET FOR GUN OWNERS 1/18/13

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#1 The Architect

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Posted January 21 2013 - 10:14 AM

NY SAFE FACT SHEET
GUN OWNERS - WHAT THE LAW MEANS TO YOU
Enacted Into Law on January 15, 2013
If you are currently a pistol owner with a valid pistol permit:
Permit:

Pistol Permits for all legal owners remain valid.    In all counties with the
exceptions of NYC, Suffolk, Nassau and Westchester, your permit will continue
to have no expiration.  NYC, Suffolk, Nassau and Westchester have variants of
the no expiration provisions – these will also continue.

Every 5 years you will need to verify the following information on your pistol
permit to  the New York State Police:
  name, DOB, gender, race, residential
address, social security number, the firearms possessed, and if you want, your email address.  The  purpose of the  recertification is to update information. This
recertification process will not be in place for one year.  Once it is in place, you
will have up to four years to  do your first recertification.  If you still  have not
recertified after four years, you will receive a notice to recertify.  Once you have
completed the recertification, you must recertify  every five years thereafter.  If
you do not recertify, your permit will no longer be valid and you will need to
reapply.

You will now be able to keep your pistol permit information private.
Newspapers around the State have been releasing personal pistol permit
information. You will now be given the opportunity to shield your pistol permit
information from disclosure as a public record under Freedom  Of  Information
Law  provisions if you have a reason to retain your privacy on this matter.  
Reasons range from your employment as a police officer, status as a victim of
domestic violence, or many other reasons including the belief that you could be
the subject of unwarranted harassment upon disclosure. No FOIL requests are
being processed for 6 months while opt out forms are being created and  permit
holders are given time to submit such to the county that holds your permit.  If you
do not opt out at this point, you may do so at any time in the future.

Pistols:
Under current law all of your handguns are required to be listed on your
pistol permit.
If you own a pistol that was a grandfathered assault weapon as a
result of the 1994 Federal Assault Weapon Ban, starting in 90 days from the new
law’s enactment, if it is not already listed on your pistol permit, you will need to
make sure it is listed within a year. You may only transfer it to another person
outside New York State or a Federal Firearms Licensed Dealer in or out of New
York State.  You must update your permit within 72 hours if you do dispose of it.  

If you own a semiautomatic pistol with the ability to accept a detachable
magazine, and it has any of the specific characteristics

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, starting in 90 days from

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a folding or telescoping stock; a thumbhole stock; a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the
non-trigger hand; capacity to accept an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; a
threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer; a shroud that
is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the
non-trigger hand without being burned; a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded;
or a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm.2
enactment, if it is not already listed on your pistol permit, you will need to make
sure it is listed within a year, and you may only transfer it to another person
outside New York State or a Federal Firearms Licensed Dealer in or out of New
York State.  You must update your permit within 72 hours if you do dispose of it.
You may no longer purchase a pistol, new or used, that falls within the assault
pistol definition above.

If you own any other type of pistol, there are no further requirements or
restrictions on the pistol itself.
  However, starting in 60 days from enactment, any
private sales of pistols will require a National Instant Criminal Background Check
System  (NICS) by a firearms dealer to effectuate the transfer.  There is an
exception to this for transfers to immediate family members  – spouses and
children.


If you are currently a legal rifle owner:
Permit/registration:
There is no new permit or registration process for rifle owners that are not
defined as “assault weapons”.

Rifle:
If you own a rifle that was a grandfathered assault weapon as a result of the
1994 Federal Assault Weapon Ban, starting in 90 days from enactment, you
will need to register it with the New York State Police within a year, and you
may only transfer it to another person outside New York State or a Federal
Firearms Licensed Dealer in or out of New York State.  You must update your
registration within 72 hours if you do dispose of it.  
If you own a semiautomatic  rifle with the ability to accept a detachable
magazine, and it has any of the specific characteristics
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, starting in 90 days from
enactment you will need to register it with the New York State Police within a
year, and you may only transfer it to another person outside New York State or a
Federal Firearms Licensed Dealer in or out of New York State.  You must update
your registration within 72 hours if you do dispose of it. You may no longer
purchase a rifle, new or used, that falls within the assault rifle definition above.
If you own any other type of  rifle, there are no further requirements or
restrictions on the rifle itself.  However, starting in 60 days from enactment, any
private sales of rifles will require a NICS check by a firearms dealer to effectuate
the transfer.  There is an exception to this for transfers to immediate family
members – spouses and children.

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a folding or telescoping stock; a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; a
thumbhole stock; a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; a bayonet mount;
a flash suppressor,  muzzle break, muzzle compensator, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash
suppressor, muzzle break, or muzzle compensator; or a grenade launcher.
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If you are currently a legal shotgun owner:
Permit/registration:
There is no new permit or registration process for shotgun owners that are not
defined as “assault weapons.”
Shotgun:
If you own a shotgun that was a grandfathered assault weapon as a result of
the 1994 Federal Assault Weapon Ban, starting in 90 days from enactment,
you will need to register it with the New York State Police within a year, and
you may only transfer it to another person outside New York State or a Federal
Firearms Licensed Dealer in or out of New York State. You must update your
registration within 72 hours if you do dispose of it.  
If you own a semiautomatic  shotgun and it has any of the  specific
characteristics
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, starting in 90 days from enactment  you will need to register it
with the New York State Police within a year, and you may only transfer it to
another person outside New York State or a Federal Firearms Licensed Dealer in
or out of New York State.  You must update your registration within 72 hours if
you do dispose of it. You may no longer purchase a shotgun, new or used, that
falls within the assault shotgun definition above.
If you own any other type of shotgun, there are no further requirements or
restrictions on the shotgun itself.  However, starting in 60 days from enactment,
any private sales of shotguns will require a NICS check by a firearms dealer to
effectuate the transfer.  There is an  exception to this for transfers to immediate
family members – spouses and children.
All gun owners:
Ammunition:
If you own a large capacity magazine greater than 10 round capacity that was
a grandfathered magazine as a result of the 1994 Federal Assault Weapon Ban,
within a year, you must do one of the following: dispose of it to another person
outside New York State, surrender it to law enforcement officials, or permanently
alter such to only accept 7 rounds.  
If you own a 10 round magazine for your  gun, you will be allowed to keep
such magazine but only be able to load it with 7 rounds unless you are at an
exempted location such as a shooting range or competition.  In 90 days from
enactment you will no longer be able to purchase 10 round magazines, only 7 and
lower capacity magazines.
Starting in one year, to purchase ammunition, the seller will perform a check to
verify that you are not prohibited under the Federal Law disqualifiers  (see last
page)  from possessing a firearm, and will not sell you ammunition if you are
prohibited.

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a folding or telescoping stock; a thumbhole stock; a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the
non-trigger hand; a fixed magazine capacity in excess of seven rounds; or  an ability to accept a detachable
magazine.
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Safe Storage:
If  you live with someone you know to be disqualified from owning a gun
because of a criminal conviction, a mental health issue, or because they have a
current order of protection out against them, then you are under an obligation that
before you leave your gun out of your immediate possession or control, you must
first securely lock the gun in a safe or other secure container,  or render it
incapable of being fired by using a gun locking device.
Relics and Curios:
If you own a gun that falls within the definition of an assault weapon and/or a
corresponding high capacity magazine for such a weapon, which is 50 years
old or more, it is  considered a relic and curio.  The value as a collectable or
antique of such is understood, and although both must be registered with the New
York State Police within 1 year, they may continue to be bought and sold in and
out of the state so long as registration information is kept current.
Federal Disqualifiers
Certain persons are prohibited by Federal Law from possessing any gun anywhere in
the United States. Under Federal Law these individuals are also banned from possessing
firearms in New York State if they meet one of the following criteria:
who has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term
exceeding one year;
who is a fugitive from justice;
who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in
section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802));
who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental
institution;
who, being an alien
is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or
except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States
under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the
Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(26)));
who has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;
who, having been a citizen of the United States, who has renounced his citizenship;
who is subject to a court order that -
was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at
which such person had an opportunity to participate;
restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate
partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging
in other  conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of
bodily injury to the partner or child; and
includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical
safety of such intimate partner or child; or by its terms explicitly prohibits the
use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate
partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or
who has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.5

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#2 hemi1500

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Posted January 21 2013 - 08:47 PM

Again sorry for beating a dead horse,,just if you know,,let me know the section to read so i can see exactly what i need.

I was going to read the bill today, kinda dont want to go over the whole thing but know i should.  I already asked this several times, so if you have seen this please don't get upset.  I still have not found an answer yet.  What section of the bill says pertinent information about features for the rifle..

from the bill
"If you own a rifle that was a grandfathered assault weapon as a result of the
1994 Federal Assault Weapon Ban, starting in 90 days from enactment, you
will need to register it"

paid on the 3rd,and the following was from another member ,""""as long as the transaction began before the 15th,,like the Governor's office said""""

#3 Seancusmc

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Posted January 22 2013 - 02:01 AM

All that legislation to save 0 lives and make no one safer.

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Posted January 22 2013 - 02:07 AM

what really doesnt make sense is, any pistol or handgun that has any sort of stock on it, will be considered an SBR under federal law, and any pistol or handgun with a front vertical grip is considered an AOW under federal law. register or not,   YOU SHOULDNT BE HAVING THEM ANYWAY! thats NFA stuff, including the mentioned silencers.  so dont go out and start putting any of this crap on your pistols and registering em thinking you can get away, unless you want bigger problems.

Edited by m1lk, January 22 2013 - 02:10 AM.



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#5 Licorice

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Posted January 22 2013 - 03:51 AM

The one thing I vermently disagree with you is, It Is a Pistole LICENESE not Permit.  They want you to think of it as such.
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Posted January 28 2013 - 12:02 PM

This S... Sux!
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes" -  Thomas Jefferson

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Posted January 28 2013 - 12:12 PM

I've GOT to be reading this wrong

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If you are currently a legal rifle owner:
Permit/registration:
There is no new permit or registration process for rifle owners that are not
defined as “assault weapons”.

Rifle:
  
If you own a semiautomatic  rifle with the ability to accept a detachable
magazine, and it has any of the specific characteristics

a folding or telescoping stock; a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; a
thumbhole stock; a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; a bayonet mount;
a flash suppressor,  muzzle break, muzzle compensator, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash
suppressor, muzzle break, or muzzle compensator; or a grenade launcher
, starting in 90 days from
enactment you will need to register it with the New York State Police within a
year,

The way it reads to me....As long as you are willing to register, you can have EVERY SINGLE Evil feature on your rifle....looks like they totally got rid of any assault weapon BANS. Everything is now legal, as long as you register

#8 animalMOTHER

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Posted January 28 2013 - 12:17 PM

View PostRidewithme38, on January 28 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

I've GOT to be reading this wrong



The way it reads to me....As long as you are willing to register, you can have EVERY SINGLE Evil feature on your rifle....

That's how I read it as well, and that can't be right?

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#9 Toocan

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Posted January 28 2013 - 12:50 PM

So the way I'm reading this is I could still will a gun to my family members, they would just have to register in their name?

#10 mattyj513

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Posted January 28 2013 - 01:05 PM

Regarding the entire content of the original post.


NNNNNNNNNNNNNope!
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We will make it a government of men, not law.
Because we're men." - Stogie Lonesome

#11 billb42

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Posted February 03 2013 - 09:55 AM

If you own any other type of pistol, there are no further requirements or
restrictions on the pistol itself.
  However, starting in 60 days from enactment, any
private sales of pistols will require a National Instant Criminal Background Check
System  (NICS) by a firearms dealer to effectuate the transfer.  There is an
exception to this for transfers to immediate family members  – spouses and
children.
Just wondering why? If I am a Nassau County pistol permit holder, with no blemishes, and I want to sell one of my pistols to another Nassau (Suffolk or NY State) pistol permit holder, with no blemishes, why do I need a NICS?

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#12 Georgeviking

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Posted February 08 2013 - 01:00 PM

The state is not saying you can't keep your assault rifle they just want to know who has one....................it limits the amount of doors to kick down when they want them in a few years.
The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those that are willing to work
And give to those who would not.
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Posted February 23 2013 - 12:27 PM

We need to flood Smith and Wesson , Sig Saur and Glock with letters , emails and phone calls asking them not to sell to State law enforcement agencies and governments that are not supporting the 2nd amendment .

These are the top suppliers of law enforcment  . we need to get these manufacturers on board with all the others that are refuse too sell to those states passing unconstitutional laws .   So call , wrot and email these Please !!!





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