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Smith and Wesson Model 10 date of manufacture.

smith and wesson model 10 date of manufacture

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#1 ceesman762

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Posted November 14 2012 - 02:28 PM

I have my Father's old duty revolver, S&W Model 10, the serial # starts with 623***, no letter prefix. Can anyone tell me the year of manufacture? Thanks.
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#2 Strat688

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Posted November 14 2012 - 02:45 PM

Open the cylinder and look on the frame first, for a model designation.  It could say 10-5, 10-6, 10-7, etc.
Then, at the very least you'll know the exact model number.
After that I can't help you, however, there are many other websites where the year of manufacture can be determined, based on the serial number.
In fact one of our members is a S&W guru..........I'm sure he'll chime in.
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#3 ceesman762

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Posted November 14 2012 - 08:21 PM

8373. Nothing else
"Laws are like locks, they are made to keep honest people honest"  My Dad, a Cop who walked the beat, 40th precinct, South Bronx.

#4 cjb1

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Posted November 14 2012 - 08:52 PM

When did your dad get on the job? NYPD?
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Posted November 14 2012 - 08:55 PM

If its made prior to 1957 S&W's had no model numbers and they had names instead... Example the 10 was called the "Military & Police"

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Posted November 14 2012 - 09:07 PM

It's not a model 10 with that serial number. M&P and model 10's have a S or a C prefix. Do you have a picture? What does it say on the side of the barrel? Does it say 38 CTG? It could be a .38 regulation police or an old Hand ejector. with that serial number.



#7 ceesman762

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Posted November 14 2012 - 09:24 PM

CTG is on the barrel. I will post pictures of it tomorrow morning.
"Laws are like locks, they are made to keep honest people honest"  My Dad, a Cop who walked the beat, 40th precinct, South Bronx.

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Posted November 14 2012 - 09:24 PM

Hunter,

I think ceesman762 was refering 8373 to the numbers found in the crane/yoke area. Ceeaman762 stated the the serial number was 623...

What do you think?

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Posted November 14 2012 - 10:00 PM

The only .38 spl Smith and Wessons in that serial number range were produced in 1903 and 1904 as the Smith and Wesson .38spl Hand Ejector M&P. They look like Model 10's, and are very similar, but predate the Model 10 by over 50 years. If you post a pic of the gun, I should be able to tell what it is. We need more info to give you a solid answer.

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Posted November 15 2012 - 07:30 AM

OK, Here are the pictures. The pistol was hard chromed back in '83/'84 before my Dad retired from the job. The story of how he came to own the pistol was that he purchased it from another patrolman who was retiring.  This happened in 1965, my Dad's first year on the job. Dad told me that the cop he bought it from had bought it from another cop who was retiring during his rookie year. I know it has some age to it and definitely has seen a great deal of action. My Dad was a survivor of the '60s riots, black outs and Black Panther ambushes at the 40th in the South Bronx.  He retired back in 1985.
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Posted November 15 2012 - 07:52 AM

I think you have to cut it in half and count the rings...no wait, that may be for trees.

Would a call to the good folks at S&W help?

Based on how you describe the guns history and service it's too bad it can't speak.  I would love to hear some of the stories it certainly has to tell!

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Posted November 15 2012 - 08:08 AM

With a history like that, it may not be a bad idea to invest in a Letter of Authenticity from S&W for $50

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Posted November 15 2012 - 08:51 AM

If your dad can do it, the letter may be free.I have heard S&w does the right thing for LEO's.

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Posted November 15 2012 - 08:59 AM

 madmax, on November 15 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

If your dad can do it, the letter may be free.I have heard S&w does the right thing for LEO's.
He passed away in 2005.
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Posted November 15 2012 - 09:20 AM

...So your dad bought itas a recruit from a retiring officer, who bought it as a recruit from a retiring officer...  Your dad was on the job at least 20 to retire yes?... and the previous at least 20... and the previous...   The thing could be from 1925 (if the first retiring cop bought it when he went on the job)-1945 (if he got it just before retiring) guesstimating from the first known purchaser...

It's a 5-screw gun, (Dec. Combat Handguns actually has a short explanation of this)  which puts it as "old" for sure.

I'm wondering what the hard chrome does to the value - but I'm guessing you're not even considering selling it so that's not important.  Upside is the thing will last forever.

You should definitely get the S&W letter!!!
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Posted November 15 2012 - 09:25 AM

Call S&W. Remington has a serial # look up person in customer service. Any gun with a serial number and they'll tell you when it was made and how it left the factory. I'll bet S&W have the same.
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Posted November 15 2012 - 05:10 PM

Looks like a M&P 1905 "4th Change".... serial numbers range from 241,704 - 1,000,000 ( mfg. from 1915-1942 )

Letter prefix started in 1947...

Can you tell us what are the markings on the backstrap ? ( looks like there is somethin there ? )

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Posted November 15 2012 - 07:42 PM

The numbers on the back are NYPD armory numbers. My Dad had told me that cops could buy the pistols from the NYPD buy having a few dollars taken out of their paycheck every month.

On the length of the barrel is this "Smith & Wesson Springfield Mass USA Patented Feb 6.06,Sept 14.09 Dec 29.14"
"Laws are like locks, they are made to keep honest people honest"  My Dad, a Cop who walked the beat, 40th precinct, South Bronx.

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Posted November 16 2012 - 12:53 AM

There is a web site called THE HIGHROAD.ORG On it, there is a listing under HANDGUNS:REVOLVERS
The first catogory  is called IDENTITY OF S&W REVOLVERS

The info you're looking for will probably be available there, by giving the required info ..
Just sign up with a user name & password and you're set to go.
Sorry to hear about your Dads passing.  Is that revolver the actual gun he used as his service revolver? I ask because as a 'Proby' cop during that period of time, they were given the choice of a .38 Colt or a .38 S&W 4" Hvy Duty Model 10-6 to buy. I don't think they permitted you to use any gun other than the one that was issued by the NYPD at the time they were appointed..Those were hectic years and he would of had to have had the gun 'inspected' by the firearms section before he was allowed to carry it. It would have taken time to get that done and the city was in a rush to get them on the  streets for riot duty.
    I was appointed in 6/1966 and within 3-4 days after being sworn in, we were given a class on procedures and sent to the range to 'qualify' and had to get Blue uniforms right off of the rack and told to put the gray Probationary uniforms away and then put out in the streets of Brooklyn or the Bronx for Riot Control..    Yes, we bought everything that was required to wear from the 'NYPD Equiptment Store', located in 400 Broome St, NYC. except our shoes, black socks and Shield. Even the shield pin cost us. $.10 cents. It was called a Pension Loan and was around $500.

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Posted November 16 2012 - 01:12 AM

Nowadays the loan comes from MCU for $3,000 at a tune of something like 12% interest. How times change...

That gun has a great history. Are you going to shoot it? keep it for memories? loan it to the NYPD museum? Sell it? I'd think it has more value to you than to anyone else, but the history of that gun is pretty cool. Especially if you can place it at any major events in your fathers career or the previous cops career.





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