OK - shouldn't be poor teacher=poor student.... it's more like Poor teacher = less educated student... yes, I agree on the parenting too.
Now, the teachers I was referring to... Amityville - a HS Algebra teacher that couldn't do math. (I'd correct her on the fly... she'd be writing on the board and "that's wrong".. yeah, she hated me. even more when she got fired.) Deer Park, a teacher who couldn't SPELL to save his life.... A Smithtown grad - yes, with a Masters degree..... is the one who couldn't divide 88 by 4...teaches 2nd graders in a crappy neighborhood... I had a college prof. with a "harvard" doctorate... just a moron. I've got more too....
Now - poor standards.... the 2nd grade teacher - isn't allowed to fail students who don't make the grade... Now, if you can't pass the test in 2nd grade, HOW will you be able to survive 3rd... and so on? How about "we don't care if you do any work, just as long as you're in the classroom - you'll pass" ??? Yes, I heard this - that school just wanted seats filled so they would receive state money. is how the rest of that discussion went.
ETA - btw, a masters hasn't been a requirement for all that long to be a teacher in NYS... I think they enacted that in '92-93 - and there was a timeline to get your masters once you were hired, so having a masters wasn't really required until probably '96.
Thank you for clarifying, I totally understand where your coming from now. As in ANY profession their are idiots amongst them Also Understand That if you spend 20 years teaching 2nd grade math, you may actually forget how to do 5th grade math and so on, Im sure its not because they are stupid, I believe its more because they have allowed their brains to degenerate through complacency. But yes there are a few that are stupid I am sure. As far as not holding kids back, thats not an individual teacher thing thats a public education thing. Now, I am not a teacher, However, I have been placed in a position to instruct adults, in a stressful environment, I was placed in that position only because I was good at what they wanted me to teach not because I was smart. The class size was anywhere from 30-60 and the length of the class was 6 months. I taught everything the exact same way to everyone some times 20% would fail the proficiency tests, sometimes 30% did those failures mean that I did not do my job? I first thought that, did some research into the failures and found they pretty much sucked at all the other areas that I did not teach in. My point is, Dont blame the teacher because a kid fails, A kid that does poorly has no one to blame but himself, his parents and possibly his Gene pool, Its just easier to blame the teacher. Its seems that most are jealous as to what a teacher makes on long island (which is not the norm elsewhere) But those who got the job, good for them, They found a job to where they can actually afford to live like a human being on this island. and that should not be begrudged by anyone, if it is, then that person can go to school and apply for a job as a teacher?
But cool, its not that you hate teachers, you just know of some that are idiots I wont disagree with you on that every profession has them.