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Underwater video points to Peconic fish kill on the horizon

underwater video points to peconic fish kill on the horizon

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#1 trapshooterbob

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Posted May 12 2016 - 02:46 PM

http://suffolktimes.timesreview.com/2016/05/67780/underwater-video-points-to-peconic-fish-kill-on-the-horizon/

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Hundreds of bunker, their mouths yawning open as they gape for oxygenated water and to clean their gills, were filmed swimming in the Peconic River Wednesday.

It’s a sign that a harmful algal bloom, known as mahogany tide, could soon cause another large fish kill in the river.

The video was shot underwater off the banks of the Peconic River at about 5:30 p.m. Wednesday by marine biologist Chris Paparo.

“I was down there this morning and there was even more fish than there was yesterday,” Mr. Paparo said Thursday morning.

Marine Researchers have been tracking a bloom of the same algae that caused a massive die-off in the river last May, according to an in-depth report published Wednesday on riverheadlocal.com.

“They get so dense that they cloud the water,” Mr. Paparo said of the blooms. “It’s like an orangey, rusty brown.”

Predator fish, like bluefish and striped bass, frequently chase bunker into shallow, low oxygen waters sometimes causing die-offs around this time of year. But last year scientists reported one of the biggest fish kills ever in the region following an algal bloom, something they said in a February report could become the norm.

On Thursday, the Riverhead Town Board discussed a plan to remove bunker fish from the Peconic Bay in hopes of preventing another large fish kill. The town and the state DEC would pay fishermen four cents a pound to remove the bunker, under the proposal.

Fishermen hired by the DEC have already removed over 150,000 pounds of bunker fish since Monday, Town Supervisor Sean Walter said.

Nitrogen is the key culprit in a fish kill. The nutrient gets washed into the water supply by rain. Nitrogen can come from septic tanks, cesspools or fertilizers.

The nitrogen then gets eaten by blooms of algae. The algae grows bigger and sucks oxygen out of the water at night.

Algae, like all plants, uses oxygen when the sun goes and down and emits CO2.

Fish also need oxygenated water to survive and when the oxygen content reaches dangerously low levels, the fish die.

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Posted May 12 2016 - 03:05 PM

I fish up river in the Peconic, the kill is in the brackish water by the bay....the water is really nasty there..

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Posted May 12 2016 - 03:24 PM

I'm part of the Peconic Estuary Program, the hypoxia and N2 overloads are regular and devastating

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Posted May 12 2016 - 03:26 PM

They should have a Round up to net as many bunker as the can get out of the effected area. Sharkers and bait company's can freeze up as many chum blocks as they can for wholesale. Bass and blue fishermen can always use fresh and frozen bunker. Farms use bunker for fertilizer. I think they even use them for making explosives. They should lift all restrictions on large scale netting for these instances. A shame to see these fish rotting in the shallows.

Edited by C6NY, May 12 2016 - 03:27 PM.

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Posted May 12 2016 - 03:39 PM

I'm part of the Peconic Estuary Program, the hypoxia and N2 overloads are regular and devastating


I remember this happening last year too.

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Posted May 12 2016 - 03:39 PM

I'm part of the Peconic Estuary Program, the hypoxia and N2 overloads are regular and devastating

Got to have those fertilized golf courses ya know.
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Posted May 12 2016 - 03:44 PM

Got to have those fertilized golf courses ya know.

They have actually developed timed (not time release) fertilizers for the farmers out there. They release the correct amount at the correct time depending on the crop. Most farmers have "bought in" to the program because they use less. The golf courses and landscapers are another matter

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Posted May 12 2016 - 03:53 PM

Quick, dump a few hundred gallons of RoundUp in the drink, that will clear that algae fast.
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Posted May 12 2016 - 04:29 PM

Yep, must be those damn golf courses. Close them all and sell the land to developers.
Later,Steve

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Posted May 12 2016 - 04:49 PM

Got to have those fertilized golf courses ya know.

A non golfer no doubt.
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Posted May 12 2016 - 05:25 PM

What a shame polluting our bays and oceans

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Posted May 12 2016 - 05:50 PM

Yep, must be those damn golf courses. Close them all and sell the land to developers.
Later,Steve

Oh Steve. You were half way right.
Close them all and make them rifle ranges!
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Posted May 12 2016 - 05:54 PM

A non golfer no doubt.

I don't mind golf at all but understand that here on Long island they try to shut down trap ranges because of noise pollution, lead pollution, etc.
The same people that want that, and complain about cow farts destroying the planet have no problem with polluting our ocean and estuaries as long as they can have luscious lawns and beautiful golf courses to attend affairs.
It is to those people that I say it.
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Posted May 12 2016 - 06:11 PM

A non golfer no doubt.


"A good walk spoiled"

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Posted May 12 2016 - 06:22 PM

I don't mind golf at all but understand that here on Long island they try to shut down trap ranges because of noise pollution, lead pollution, etc.
The same people that want that, and complain about cow farts destroying the planet have no problem with polluting our ocean and estuaries as long as they can have luscious lawns and beautiful golf courses to attend affairs.
It is to those people that I say it.


I'm not arguing with you and do agree to some extent. But golf courses are not the problem. Look into the GCSAA, golf course supers assn. of America. Read up on it, most courses adhere to their guidance and policies.
Food for thought :
There are 120 plus golf courses here on the Island, public and private. It takes about 120 acres per course, and that's on the low end. That acreage includes the clubhouse, facilities, garages, parking lots, etc.. Given that, lets say the courses are all sold and they are built on. Let's say building parcels would be 1/4 acre each, that would mean building well over 60,000 homes. Now I don't know about you, but I would rather have the open space of golf courses instead of the environmental impact of all those homes.
And, if like I said, if you look up the GCSAA, golf courses, adhering to their policies is much better than any residential impacts.
Later, Steve (yes I'm an avid golfer)

Edited by anothersteve, May 12 2016 - 06:36 PM.


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Posted May 12 2016 - 06:23 PM

Clearly we need less fish, so I propose that they capture only the male fish and then sterilize them to cut down on the population.

No, I am not crazy. In fact NYC city thinks that is going to work on Staten Island to control the deer population.
They are going start the program by spening $2 million by darting bucks and snippig them.

Of course the thought of allowing some limited hunting is deemed to dangerous, and of course the anti's would go to every court to block it.
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Posted May 12 2016 - 08:25 PM

I saw thousands in a canal in Flanders this week they are just swimming to the end of the canal and they just keep piling up till there dead I should have video it , crazy to see

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Posted May 12 2016 - 08:34 PM

Can we invite Hilliary for a swim?

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Posted May 12 2016 - 08:43 PM

Can we invite Hilliary for a swim?


I'll wager decaying bunker smells like roses compared to her.
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Posted May 12 2016 - 11:22 PM

I'm not arguing with you and do agree to some extent. But golf courses are not the problem. Look into the GCSAA, golf course supers assn. of America. Read up on it, most courses adhere to their guidance and policies.
Food for thought :
There are 120 plus golf courses here on the Island, public and private. It takes about 120 acres per course, and that's on the low end. That acreage includes the clubhouse, facilities, garages, parking lots, etc.. Given that, lets say the courses are all sold and they are built on. Let's say building parcels would be 1/4 acre each, that would mean building well over 60,000 homes. Now I don't know about you, but I would rather have the open space of golf courses instead of the environmental impact of all those homes.
And, if like I said, if you look up the GCSAA, golf courses, adhering to their policies is much better than any residential impacts.
Later, Steve (yes I'm an avid golfer)

In a way you're not understanding my post.
If the people that have no problem with golf courses are worried about cow farts they are messed up.
That's what I'm talking about. The ridiculous of people that think that way.
I have no problem, with golf courses.





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