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Gilgo/Sore Thumb not set to open?

gilgosore thumb not set to open

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#1 BillyBonds

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Posted March 16 2016 - 07:56 AM

I had seen something on FB a few weeks ago that Gilgo/Sore Thumb will not be opening this year due to erosion. Anyone else hear this?

Considering ditching the state permit this year and going with the Suffolk County instead, especially if the Gilg closing is true. Does the county pass restrict tire size to 33" like the state pass does?

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#2 LiDad

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Posted March 16 2016 - 08:01 AM

Every year more and more (or should I say less and less) state beach is open for 4x4.

Erosion is real but until it threatens ocean parkway they're in no rush to make it better just for some lousy surf casters.

I heard now you need the 4x4 AND night permit???



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Posted March 16 2016 - 08:27 AM

I did the 4x4 passes for a long time.... got sick of Smith Point closing at will for pretty much half the season due to the damn plovers.... ditched the 4x4 pass and got a boat, now I do what I want!! Anyway, here's a link to the Suffolk rules http://www.suffolkco...BeachRules.aspx As for the tire size, there are deuce and a half's that regular Smith Point, and I have friends with 35"'s or better who have never had an issue...... just air down so you don't cause ruts, but half the people don't follow that rule anyway.
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#4 jetfan1616

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Posted March 16 2016 - 09:00 AM

Be warned that if you plan to use the permit at Smith Point, it will be closed as much, if not more, than Democrat and Sore Thumb.
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Posted March 16 2016 - 09:24 AM

I would bet that the thumb will open but there may be little to no beach to drive on and access would be limited to the trails that lead down to the beach. Gilgo has practically no beach to drive on at high tide and I would expect it to remain closed.

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Posted March 16 2016 - 09:29 AM

Gilgo is closed. It's blacked out on the permit now, with a sticker stating closed. Not sure about sore thumb, but it has become soccer mom central anyway as there is little to no enforcement of the fishing rules.

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Posted March 16 2016 - 09:35 AM

#surfcasterslivesmatter
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#8 LiDad

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Posted March 16 2016 - 09:51 AM

#surfcasterslivesmatter


Not until you've been hanging off a Jetty by your literal finger nails at 2am in October! :o. ;)

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Posted March 16 2016 - 10:00 AM

pictures of Gilgo on another website would tell me that unless this summer's and early fall's usual return of some sand takes place in a dramatic fashion, one can forget access by vehicles there. That said, I have never seen an overweight surfcaster on the walk to the Jones Beach jetty... There are some advantages to prohibiting vehicle access.

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Posted March 16 2016 - 10:59 AM

Smith Point is closed now as well for dredging.
By the time that is done it will be just in time to close for the stupid little dune chickens.
Gotta love the opportunities we get here for our tax dollars.

#11 BillyBonds

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Posted March 16 2016 - 11:09 AM

I thought Sore Thumb was part of Gilgo, and therefor the whole place would be shut down. There was already so much erosion last year that you could barely drive on the beach and had to use the trails

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Posted March 16 2016 - 11:55 AM

Sore subject. I surfcasted all over the island for almost 30 years.... Each year I would have passes from Rockaway through Montauk, losing access each year, less and less, more fighting, yadda yadda...In 2012 I bought a new Parker and never looked back. We live on an island yet have access to leass than half, probably less now. In Montauk even though I have the resident 4x4, still needed Camp Hero and the State to be compiant. PFFT...

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#13 knightofsuffolk

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Posted March 16 2016 - 01:04 PM

Sore subject. I surfcasted all over the island for almost 30 years.... Each year I would have passes from Rockaway through Montauk, losing access each year, less and less, more fighting, yadda yadda...In 2012 I bought a new Parker and never looked back. We live on an island yet have access to leass than half, probably less now. In Montauk even though I have the resident 4x4, still needed Camp Hero and the State to be compiant. PFFT...


Yup. Same issue with most of my favorite, long time water fowling spots. Lose, lose, lose...

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Posted March 16 2016 - 01:12 PM

You guys are really starting to depress me. I was going to ask where are the good fishing spots if you don't have a boat.

Maybe I should just spend the summer shooting trap.

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Posted March 16 2016 - 01:13 PM

Go kayak.

Most of the benefits of a boat, no motor or insurance expenses. :D

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Posted March 16 2016 - 02:51 PM

Sore subject. I surfcasted all over the island for almost 30 years.... Each year I would have passes from Rockaway through Montauk, losing access each year, less and less, more fighting, yadda yadda...In 2012 I bought a new Parker and never looked back. We live on an island yet have access to leass than half, probably less now. In Montauk even though I have the resident 4x4, still needed Camp Hero and the State to be compiant. PFFT...


Its awful.

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Posted March 16 2016 - 05:40 PM

Years ago I attended a presentation by a surf guide. He sais he spends a $1,000 a year in permits.

Afterwards I asked him how much and started rattling off all the fishing/access/4x4 permits for LI.

He as right.

Disgusting. :(

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Posted March 16 2016 - 07:24 PM

You guys are really starting to depress me. I was going to ask where are the good fishing spots if you don't have a boat.

Maybe I should just spend the summer shooting trap.

Get a friend with a boat. ;) Oh & continue to shoot trap.
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#19 PaPaBear

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Posted March 18 2016 - 03:32 PM

Gilgo is closed permanent Sore thumb will be opened

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Posted March 18 2016 - 03:34 PM

And they reduced the cost of the permit for the loss of access?



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