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FFL for outbound shipping of pistols?

ffl for outbound shipping of pistols

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#21 DarkStorm

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Posted February 17 2016 - 05:26 PM

A few different issues here...

1. What is legal vs illegal (a non-licensee shipping a handgun through USPS is illegal)
2. What company policies are (https://www.ups.com/...s/firearms.html)
3. What common occurrence is (walk into the UPS store and tell them you are shipping a gun and they will point you to the door - albeit incorrectly)

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#22 LI Ammo

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Posted February 17 2016 - 05:32 PM

I second that. We're in the same boat :-) Even the friendliest ffls on LI haven't addressed this issue to my satisfaction, thus making us private owners non-competitive for handgun sales on gunbroker. DSI, thanks for partial clarification, but even a private party is allowed to ship a handgun next day air (assuming that receiving ffl will accept shipments from a private party which most of them do). I read the USPS rules at some point and my understanding was that ffl needed to register with USPS. What's the big deal? Priority mail is $15 or so for that package size. Help us sell the handgun and sure enough we'll by another one and transfer it through you :-)


Also, some miss-information here, the USPS package won't be $15.00 anymore when you add adult signature and insurance, both extra cost options and together another $10 to $20 depending on value. The cheapest I can get a small pistol out of here is actual cost of about $27.00 and it's usually more. Most medium sized plastic gun cases don't fit in the medium box and have to go to the large box, and then it's $35.00 to $40.00 actual cost.

Somehow it always seems like customers think we're laying back making money at every turn. My experience has been to the contrary.

#23 DanJ

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Posted February 17 2016 - 07:04 PM

LI Ammo and DSI I really appreciate you guy taking the time and explaining the nuances of shipping a pistol to us.

#24 lucija

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Posted February 20 2016 - 07:54 AM

I second that. We're in the same boat :-) Even the friendliest ffls on LI haven't addressed this issue to my satisfaction, thus making us private owners non-competitive for handgun sales on gunbroker. DSI, thanks for partial clarification, but even a private party is allowed to ship a handgun next day air (assuming that receiving ffl will accept shipments from a private party which most of them do). I read the USPS rules at some point and my understanding was that ffl needed to register with USPS. What's the big deal? Priority mail is $15 or so for that package size. Help us sell the handgun and sure enough we'll by another one and transfer it through you :-)


This is entirely untrue. You can send a rifle via the post office, but a non-FFL can not send a handgun in the mail it is a federal crime.


"Entirely untrue" is a pretty bold statement, I'm having trouble finding even parts of my statement that are untrue (so I'd appreciate if you could be more specific).

I have to say though that I'm not sure whether unsafe act (or some other recent changes by local licensing offices) affected the ability of a private party to ship a handgun next day air.

I never said that a private person can ship a handgun through USPS. If I thought that was possible, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Some of the FFLs told me they couldn't ship USPS, I then read some rules and it appeared to me that they just needed to submit some paperwork with local post office.

Either way I appreciate you trying to address the questions. Bottom line for me is: If I'm to sell a handgun on gunbroker I have to pay $65 and upwards shipping/transfer fees ... which makes me not very competitive at all as a seller. Which means that I'm neither selling nor buying, which means less transfer fees to pay at local FFLs.

#25 golf17

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Posted February 24 2016 - 02:34 PM

port jeff gets my vote
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