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Kayaks are no longer allowed at Blydenburgh Lake

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#1 COLLECTINGHEADS

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Posted June 19 2015 - 06:03 AM

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BLYDENBURGH ACCESS:
I know this is a very specific issue but if they can deny access this easily at one lake they can do it anywhere.

I was hoping you might be able to lend a bit of support. Recently Greg Dawson, Commissioner of Suffolk County Parks closed access to Blydenburgh Lake in Smithtown for Kayakers. In the past kayakers were advised to use the back entrance to the park on New Mill Road which is only accessed by traveling through a residential area. 30 Residents complained about the traffic, (on a busy Saturday you will see maybe 5 kayakers on the lake at once) and every other imaginable issue so last week Greg Dawson and Leslie Kennedy, Suffolk County Legislator, 12th L.D. closed access to the lake for Kayakers at the New Mill Road entrance.

If residential traffic is truly the issue we are asking is to be allowed to put our boats in at the main entrance off of 347, pay the park fee and another fee to launch which would solve the problem and put some extra money in their pocket. I can’t get a clear answer as to why they are resistant to this idea but I was told no. We don’t need a dock or a ramp just a two foot piece of the shoreline to launch out boats. After speaking with both Ms. Kennedy and Mr. Dawson it was made clear that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, which is exactly what Ms. Kennedy said to me. So I was hoping you guys would assist with some squeaking?

Every little bit helps an email or a phone call asking why we are no longer able to paddle or access Blydenburgh lake would be sufficient to get the ball rolling.

Leslie Kennedy
Suffolk County Legislator, 12th L.D.
631-854-3735 (Tel.)
631-854-3744 (Fax)
leslie.kennedy@suffolkcountyny.gov

Greg Dawson Commissioner
Physical Site Address 1 Montauk Highway
Physical Site City, State, Zip West Sayville, NY 11796
Mailing Address 1 P.O. Box 144
Mailing City, State, Zip West Sayville, NY 11796
Main Phone (631)854-4949 (General Information)
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#2 BillyBonds

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Posted June 19 2015 - 06:26 AM

Why would you want to launch from that side? Launching from the boat ramp would be much easier.
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Posted June 19 2015 - 06:48 AM

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Nobody NEEDS a kayak!
Ban them for the children!

What you need is some black kayakers to call it racial discrimination. Or get some gay kayakers or better yet even one transgender kayaker and they'll set aside a special spot for you and probably build you a kayak rack and picnic area.

Personally I'd get a tandem kayak and go there with a friend and give them a big FU when they say you can't launch. It's not a personal water craft and no different from a row boat.
I'd also take photos and start screaming if I saw a single person in a canoe.

This is the problem with socialism. The government must control everything.
If residential traffic is a complaint I seriously don't know why they just don't make you use the main entrance like everyone else.

There's a marina down by me and a baseball field. If I become a liberal can I get them to shut them down?

I'll send some letters for you.
There's a reason Long island is called the Land of No.

Edited by Aquabach, June 19 2015 - 06:55 AM.

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Posted June 19 2015 - 06:52 AM

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Just go take the sign down.
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Posted June 19 2015 - 07:12 AM

Total nonsense.

It's amazing that a small handful of complainers can get things like this changed. And it'll take a 10x response to change it back.

LIF is pretty good at squeaking. I don't own a kayak, but I'll make a call.

Can't imagine how many thousands of hours I spent fishing from the shore on that lake as a kid.

Keep us informed.
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Posted June 19 2015 - 07:19 AM

I find it really funny that people are complaining about cars traveling on a road...the same road they were told to travel on to reach their destination. I hate new york.
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Posted June 19 2015 - 07:26 AM

Just go take the sign down.


It works! I won't tell how I know. ;)
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Posted June 19 2015 - 07:28 AM

I dont have a kayak. But ive brought my two man plastic pontoon bass boat on there. And plan on doing it again. So theyll get one more call from me.

You dont like the traffic there...move. honestly thats the area I eventually want to end up in. A walk to some good fishing and a nice quiet area besides the massive flow of park goers. Ridiculous.
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Posted June 19 2015 - 07:29 AM

Total nonsense.

It's amazing that a small handful of complainers can get things like this changed. And it'll take a 10x response to change it back.

LIF is pretty good at squeaking. I don't own a kayak, but I'll make a call.

Can't imagine how many thousands of hours I spent fishing from the shore on that lake as a kid.

Keep us informed.

Amazing? NO it is the norm on long island, there are MANY people who live on this island that are miserable, entitled, fools whom cannot stand to see anyone enjoy a recreational activity so they complain, complain, complain. it makes me sick
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Posted June 19 2015 - 07:33 AM

The land of "NO". I do have kayak's, I do not paddle this lake, but I certainly made the call. I will pass it along to the President of the Long Island Paddlers club as well. They certainly know how to rock the boat also (yes, pun intended).
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Posted June 19 2015 - 07:36 AM

Why would you want to launch from that side? Launching from the boat ramp would be much easier.


I agree the hill to get down to the water is a back breaker but apparently that's not an option but no one would tell me why. I truly appreciate anything and all efforts here! I sent this over this morning.....

Ms Kennedy & Mr. Dawson,
I have been kayaking on Blydenburgh lake for the past three years with my family. Recently signs were posted that personal water craft are no longer allowed on the lake. I contacted Ms. Kennedy and she was clear that it was a traffic issue for the folks that live on the access road. I can understand that concern although I believe it’s a bit embellished. Would we be able to launch at one of the various shorelines in the park via the entrance off of 347 alleviating the traffic issue on New Mill Road and paying a fee to get in the park? I can think of multiple places along the shore that would provide access & would not interfere with the existing boat rental operation. We basically need 2 feet of shoreline and a parking spot. I would truly appreciate a response and possibly a conversation with regard to alternatives. I truly enjoy paddling on the lake and would like to keep doing so with my family the way we have for the past three years. Thank you both for your time.
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Posted June 19 2015 - 07:39 AM

Made some noise, let's see what happens.
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Posted June 19 2015 - 07:41 AM

Amazing? NO it is the norm on long island, there are MANY people who live on this island that are miserable, entitled, fools whom cannot stand to see anyone enjoy a recreational activity so they complain, complain, complain. it makes me sick


The neighbors treat that side of the park as if they own it. Many of them have horses and use the field there as they will. I have had multiple conversations and been yelled at by residents in the parking lot that Kayaks are illegal there but I assured them I contacted the park and DEC and was told I was good to go. The interesting thing is this year they advertised it for the first time that the park was kayak friendly with signs and a month later the signs were replaced by the one I posted above.

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Posted June 19 2015 - 07:42 AM

You guys are awesome, I didn't think this would get much consideration and I truly appreciate your help.
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Posted June 19 2015 - 07:45 AM

I will call a little later. I am not going to mention the idea of paying a fee. Just like you are worried about the ban spreading charging a fee will spread too. Our fee are in our taxes.
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Posted June 19 2015 - 08:16 AM

I've always wondered if the town actually runs the rowboat rental there. I wouldn't be surprised if that whole thing is run by a separate company and part of their contract is no personal boats. So the parks people were being nice in saying "just go to the other side." Now that the other side is being overrun by car counting traffic nazis, their hands may be tied. Possibly in a legal sense.
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Posted June 19 2015 - 08:20 AM

People that buy a home in an area like that always think they should have special access and rights to property they do not own or pay taxes on. The same issues came up when they opened Kings Park for bowhunting...the residents cried bloody foul that they wouldn't be able to use the area themselves for fear of thier lives, danger to the children, etc...archery season runs from Oct-Jan...if you are that afraid, don't wander around the STATE OWNED LAND at that time.

Same thing happens when some yuppie buys a house on the water, and flips out and calls the cops when they see duck hunters on the bay in front of thier home. They are absolutely astounded when the cops tell them it's perfectly legal.

Until the residents start paying for exclusive rights, the state should enforce the rights of EVERYONE in the state to use the property. Blydenburgh is huge, there is plenty of room for everyone.
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Posted June 19 2015 - 08:28 AM

I just received what appears to be a canned response from the department of parks. They claim allowing watercraft was a "pilot program" for two seasons and between having to bring your kayak down the hill and the "community outcry" they decided to not continue kayak access. Both issues would easily be addressed by allowing access through the main entrance. They claim that southern access is rowboat only to maintain safety of visitors and better manage the rowboat rental. Sounds like a lot of bull to me.

Oh, and neither Leslie or Greg responded. It came from Parks Dept. community relations. I thought being a legislator and commissioner implied community relations, guess they can't handle it. Your tax dollars at work.

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Posted June 19 2015 - 08:38 AM

are you sure the motivation wasn't to force people to rent rowboats?
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Posted June 19 2015 - 08:41 AM

I went walking the trails there last year.
When we went to the main gate there is a sign with so many restrictions I started laughing.
When i paid my fee, (Got to have a fee in New York, it's not like I pay a boatload or a kayak load of taxes already now is it)
I asked the lady if it was okay if we were allowed to wear sunglasses.
I didn't see that as one of the rules and i didn't want to break any of them.
I also suggested they were going to need a new sign to put all the Land of No, restrictions on .

She was a good sport and laughed and actually said something like, " I know! It's ridiculous isn't it?"
Yes. Yes it is.

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