Before I go through the whole riga marole in finding out about a pistol permit, could someone give me some basic info?
How long does it take? How much does it end up costing? What are the requirements, besides the obvious ones? Is it still even possible to excercise this "right"?
I am a 50 year old law abiding, home owning and TAX PAYING American parent living in Suffolk, and I haven't had a speeding ticket in 25 years.
It's not bad at all. Just fill out the paperwork and send them a $10 money order with your app. Then wait for the call to set up your interview. When you go you have to bring another MO for $94.25, if I remember correctly. Then prepare to wait 3-5 months until the call your wife , if you're married, just to make sure you don't have any domestic disputes. Then about 2 weeks later the license comes in the mail. Painless but it takes time.
It's not bad at all. Just fill out the paperwork and send them a $10 money order with your app. Then wait for the call to set up your interview. When you go you have to bring another MO for $94.25, if I remember correctly. Then prepare to wait 3-5 months until the call your wife , if you're married, just to make sure you don't have any domestic disputes. Then about 2 weeks later the license comes in the mail. Painless but it takes time.
Yep. That's pretty much it.
EXCEPT ... do it yourself. It's not that difficult. and using a "service" gives the impression that you're too lazy to do it yourself.
Good luck.
That which does not kill you has made a tactical error.
We have enough gun control. What we need is idiot control.
he is in suffolk. Also, you'l need four references who live in Suffolk that you have known for more than two years and aren't family. They will need to sign the application, and after your interview, two of those references will need to fill out a character affidavit and get it notarized.
I will disagree with DomiFan.. it is a pain in the burro but don't let that stop you from doing it. "they" want you to get discouraged... On the bright side.. the people at the licensing bureau in Yaphank are nice and easy to deal with.
Welcome to the forum. Exercise your right!!! Fill out the paper work, pay the fee and wait.
It sounds like you have nothing to hide. Always reveal EVERYTHING. NEVER lie or hide anything on your application or during your interview. We stress this to everyone.
Good luck. If you have questions when completing your application, please ask.
It is not a permit ... It's a license. You don't need a permit because it is your constitutional right to own a firearm. When You are licensed to carry one, it means they checked your background and decided that you are indeed ok to own a firearm since you are not an imediate danger to others or yourself. .... If you are fellon you of course forfeited that right and the licensing process ensures you'll never get to own a pistola,,,, of course, if you are a bandido, well who cares ...
The hardest part of the process is your references and making sure your immediate boss and wife or parents are ok with you owning a firearm. I would check that first. Make sure at least 4 friends living in the same county can vouche for you. Then go down memory lane and make sure that if you had been arrested and made a court apperance that you have a court trascript describing the dismissal. Moving violations, I would not worry unless your drivers license was suspended because of it or they happen within the last 5 years (which in your case you are good to go). Dishonorably discharge from any of the armed forces is a no go.
It took yourstruly 7 months from start to finish. The last month was spent in trying to get the sombrero to fit into the frame.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men El Guapo do nothing."
... it is your constitutional right to own a firearm. ...
Assuming you can get the consent of four other citizens to exercise the right.
- Chris
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms ... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes ... " "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. " - Thomas Jefferson
Thanks eveyone. That does not sound bad at all. I though it was a big deal. It just takes time. People nowadays have the attention span of an 8 year old, and cannot think 5 days into the future, let alone 5 months.
Someone mentioned that they may speak to my employer. Is this the case? I would prefer that that does not happen. My boss is a puss.. er, complete liberal who thinks that guns are for neanderthals and rednecks. This won't stop me, but is a cause for concern on my part. Thanks again. These boards are excellent.
Thanks eveyone. That does not sound bad at all. I though it was a big deal. It just takes time. People nowadays have the attention span of an 8 year old, and cannot think 5 days into the future, let alone 5 months.
Someone mentioned that they may speak to my employer. Is this the case? I would prefer that that does not happen. My boss is a puss.. er, complete liberal who thinks that guns are for neanderthals and rednecks. This won't stop me, but is a cause for concern on my part. Thanks again. These boards are excellent.
Just go get your license. They didn't call my job or any of my refences. But then I apply in nov. 08 and had my license in jan. 09. It took me only 3 months. Now its 6 months or I must lead a very boring life. Nothing to check.
Any questions just ask.
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Fill out the App and send it in.....I just got my License after waiting far too long to go through the process. I was just too lazy to get the ball rolling. It ended up taking almost exactly six months from the date of submitting my App to receive my License. In my case, they did call my job, but just to verify employment, no mention of a Pistol License was made at any point. The only other person they called was my Wife. None of my references were contacted.
The six month wait will give you ample time to sock away some $$.......
Just go get your license. They didn't call my job or any of my refences. But then I apply in nov. 08 and had my license in jan. 09. It took me only 3 months. Now its 6 months or I must lead a very boring life. Nothing to check.
Any questions just ask.
They did call my boss (Suffolk County) whom is quite liberal and extremely anti-gun. I had a candid conversation and explained that I was interested in competition pistol shooting (sounds a lot better than home defense) with some family members. But please dont expect them not to contact your boss, because like I said- they 100% called mine.
The references are the biggest PIA, especially that they need to get them notarized, I got all mine together at once, and we all went to my friend's dad who was a notary and I treated them to snacks, etc. for going through the bother. This is one aspect of the licensing process I can see going away if the right people make a "stink" about it.
In terms of the SCPD calling your employer;
ring ring, "Hello" "Hi, this is PO Smith from the SCPD, does so and so work there ?" "Yes" "Okay, thank you have a nice day".
Before I go through the whole riga marole in finding out about a pistol permit, could someone give me some basic info?
How long does it take? How much does it end up costing? What are the requirements, besides the obvious ones? Is it still even possible to exercise this "right"?
I am a 50 year old law abiding, home owning and TAX PAYING American parent living in Suffolk, and I haven't had a speeding ticket in 25 years.
Sounds like you will not a problem. . . . and welcome to the forum!
Sounds like you will not a problem. . . . and welcome to the forum!
Just don't go on your interview with the "it's my right, not a luxury", "I'm a taxpayer", etc. schtick, they'll mistake you for one of those racist, anti-government tea party radicals
Suffolk also. The whole process is painless. Got mine many years ago. They did check with my boss, none of my references, but did interview a couple of random neighbors. I don't think it's gotten any more ardous. Download the application on line and get it started. And welcome to the forum.
Joe
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same." Ronald Reagan
Like everyone above has said before, the process isn't so bad it just takes time, patience and about 100 or so dollars. Initially the application might make your head spin but you'll soon be a pro at this. On the SCPD pistol bureau website there is the application and instructions. Print em both out unless you plan on getting the app directly from yaphank. When going through the app just make sure you're truthful and if you have any questions on it, post em here and if ANY doubt call the bureau for the best answer.
You will also need some other materials like a copy of your birth certificate or passport, proof of address like a cred card bill or phone bill, etc which is all explained in the application instructions. As for the character reference affidavits, they usually make you pick two of your 4 references to get it signed and notarized and they give you these during the interview. I managed to get all 4 of my reference affidavits completed before the interview and it worked out fine. These affidavits are also available to print on the website.
Again make sure you ask any questions you have here or via the bureau no matter how tiny or specific. Good luck and look forward to seeing you around here. You will learn a lot if you visit this site regularly!
The references are the biggest PIA, especially that they need to get them notarized, I got all mine together at once, and we all went to my friend's dad who was a notary and I treated them to snacks, etc. for going through the bother. This is one aspect of the licensing process I can see going away if the right people make a "stink" about it.
In terms of the SCPD calling your employer;
ring ring, "Hello" "Hi, this is PO Smith from the SCPD, does so and so work there ?" "Yes" "Okay, thank you have a nice day".
Actually, they asked my employer if he felt that I was qualified to own a handgun. My boss got pissed and replied "Im not qualified to answer that question, but he does a good job here at the office."
It took me several YEARS to get the references- I think it's a chap ploy to disarm people that move here from out of the area. Why should your references have to live in Suffolk county? i had references in Westchester that know me for 20+ years and would go to bat for me any day, i could not use any of them. Instread i should use a guy I have known in Suffolk for a year and a day, and might not even know very well? What a scam. I mean, joke.
I wonder what happens to the guns they strip from the out-of-town inmovers? Or do people just hold onto them illegally until they can come up with the qualifying references?
in today's climate, I';ll bet they would have a difficult time even proving that the law allowed them to deny you on the basis of your references. even a complete lack of references. Seems the Supreme court thinks you should be able to protect yourself, presumably even if you don't have any friends that want to furnish their information to the police so you can have a gun.
I need to disagree with a lot of you. The process is pretty bad. Before you can even touch a pistol in a gun shop you need to know someone for six months (sucks if you move to the area), before asking them to be a reference to apply for a pistol license in a locality where a significant section of the population is anti-gun. The process which costs a good deal of money and takes another 6 months, all this before you can even touch a pistol legally! This doesn't even touch upon carry, because this licence may be restricted to target/hunting.
Look at most other states where the process to buy a gun is - complete a background check, pay, maybe a waiting period, leave. These states don't have higher crime because of it. Then to get a CCW you take a training class, and pay a fee as little as $20 but $50 - $100ish.
Granted the state COULD make the process worse, but that doesn't mean it's not bad now.
All that ranting aside - If you live in NY (I moved out a few years ago partly because of these laws) - you need to navigate the process and I encourage people to go through the process get their guns, as well as working to change the laws, minds and attitudes towards guns. Part of the problem there is that the best way to change the attitide is to take a person to the range - which you cannot do (with a pistol) in the state- and a trip to Jersey or Connecticut is a long ways off sometimes.
I am hoping Alan Gura makes a few stops in NY to get rid of some of these bad laws, because it seems the state government is not eager to do so.
I hate to steal your thread, but how much different would it be for a 21 year old to get a license? I'm talking 2 years down the road from now anyways, but was always curious.
All they called for me was my wife and my employer, none of the references. I gave them my immediate bosses cell phone number to call, however they , of course, called the corporate office in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. I thought I just stepped in poop, but it's been awhile and I haven't heard anything. Maybe they're discreet...
Mike
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