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May 19, 2010, 4:47am Report to Moderator

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SAF blasts Bloomberg for ‘sham’ relaxation of gun regulations
By Second Amendment Foundation  Tuesday, May 18, 2010
BELLEVUE, WA - New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s “relaxation” of gun regulations to make them more streamlined in the city is “a lot of flash and very little substance,” the Second Amendment Foundation said today, after carefully studying the new guidelines.


“It is clear to us,” said SAF Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb, “that Mayor Bloomberg is trying to make it appear that his gun regulations are more user-friendly to deflect a potential lawsuit once the Supreme Court rules on our legal action to overturn the handgun ban in Chicago. This tells us that Bloomberg and his legal advisors are convinced the high court will hand down a favorable ruling in the McDonald case, striking down Chicago’s ban and incorporating the Second Amendment to the states via the 14th Amendment.’

Under Bloomberg’s program, licensing requirements will be allegedly streamlined, renewal fees will go down and the application process will be speedier.

“This sounds good on the surface,” Gottlieb observed, “but a little digging reveals that there is only one handgun licensing office in the entire city, in Manhattan. There is only one office for registering and licensing rifles and shotguns in the entire city, and that office is in Queens. The handgun application fee is $340, and there is a $94.25 fingerprinting fee on top of that. This fee structure screams for elites only’ because those fees are outrageously expensive for average citizens.

“Adding insult to injury,” he continued, “this is only to keep a handgun in your home or business. To get a carry permit, you still have to prove a need.’ Mayor Bloomberg, it’s not the Bill of Needs, it’s the Bill of Rights.”

Even Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, told the New York Times that Bloomberg is relaxing the rules because the current regulations will not be defensible under an affirmative ruling in the McDonald case, Gottlieb noted.

“Mayor Bloomberg is right to think he needs to relax gun regulations in New York City,” Gottlieb said. “He is also right to think that SAF just might come knocking with a lawsuit after our case against Chicago is decided. But he is wrong to think these sham rules are going to mollify gun owners, or fool us into giving him a pass.”




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He is also right to think that SAF just might come knocking with a lawsuit after our case against Chicago is decided.





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You know your gun control laws are way too strict when the president of the Brady campaign comments about it.  


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The Mayor's entire gun agenda is a total scam. The proof is the number of Mayor's who've dropped out of his coalition and haven't had their names removed from the list of participants and supporters.

For the first time in my life, I'm seeing a light at the end of the tunnel.


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We have enough gun control. What we need is idiot control.

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The Mayor's entire gun agenda is a total scam. The proof is the number of Mayor's who've dropped out of his coalition and haven't had their names removed from the list of participants and supporters.

For the first time in my life, I'm seeing a light at the end of the tunnel.


Not to mention how many of the mayors who had to drop out because they were convicted of crimes and removed from office. Mr. Bloomberg when you hang out with garbage you start to smell like garbage.


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Not to mention the mayors who "dropped out" because they never joined in the first place and just saw their names appear.


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Where is the NRA and NYSPRA in this?

When ever they call looking for extra $$$ I bring this up!
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The NRA gave up with NYC because Bloomberg has to much loot to fight any challenge.
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The NRA gave up with NYC because Bloomberg has to much loot to fight any challenge.


Don't kid yourself. The NRA has a lot on its plate, but NYS and NYC are on the agenda. And, the Alan Gura/SAF lawsuit which LIF donated $2000.00 to will directly affect NYC as NYC and Westchester are both in the Southern District.

And when we win Westchester, it will directrly affect the rest of the state.


That which does not kill you has made a tactical error.

We have enough gun control. What we need is idiot control.

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Don't kid yourself. The NRA has a lot on its plate, but NYS and NYC are on the agenda. And, the Alan Gura/SAF lawsuit which LIF donated $2000.00 to will directly affect NYC as NYC and Westchester are both in the Southern District.

And when we win Westchester, it will directrly affect the rest of the state.


I hope you are correct on this one sir



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I hope you are correct on this one sir


AS do I, being realistic it will be a long dragged out time before anything happens. Since SAF is concentrating on Chicago at this time.



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Same here, hopefully in our lifetime.
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The sad thing is Nassau & Suffolk well keep it unchanged.It took two years for McDonald to happen after Heller.Chicago NYC & DC still make it so difficult.It was predicted that many lawsuit are to follow now that SCOTUS has ruled in favor of the 2A.
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I still find it odd that so many gun owners on this site think the NRA is the enemy.


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I still find it odd that so many gun owners on this site think the NRA is the enemy.


I think it is because the NRA does not pass some weird ideological purity test as they are willing to not always espouse the most extreme conservative political view on everything.
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I think it is because the NRA does not pass some weird ideological purity test as they are willing to not always espouse the most extreme conservative political view on everything.


Regardless, I don't think I would have any gun rights left at all if it were not for the NRA.


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Regardless, I don't think I would have any gun rights left at all if it were not for the NRA.


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Ummm... we also have only one location in Suffolk as well as only one in Nassau to register. And I've heard that the Nassau fees are worse than Suffolk (which aren't cheap either)


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I think it is because the NRA does not pass some weird ideological purity test as they are willing to not always espouse the most extreme conservative political view on everything.


The NRA does not support a candidate because of their views on abortion, healthcare, taxes etc ... The NRA only supports or deny's support based on a candidates views on the 2A and how he/she may vote along those concerns.





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Many liberals do own guns,it's just how it is.Politicians who are anti-gun also own guns.Very sad how things work.Obama is now bragging how he kept his campaign promise of bringing home the troops from Iraq.Bloomberg brags how he is making it easier for people in the city to get a gun permit.Just a smoke screen.
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NRA was headquartered in NY.....


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NRA was headquartered in NY.....


I suspect being closer to Washington cut down on travel costs. Rent in VA is also probably cheaper than rent in NY. But it would be nice if they were still here and did support NY a little better.


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If Bloomberg is softening his position, then why does a license cost $375, plus $94 for finger printing, even if you already have a NYC license and want to do an amendment, the cost is the same and the process is the same as if you never had a NYC license. Doesn't an amendment usually cost about $10.  


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Bloomberg could make the city plenty of money if he would allow a non resident license good for a year like Massachusetts does.
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NRA was headquartered in NY.....


Yes it was. The very grounds of the Creedmoor Psychiatric Center was used as a rifle range...until people who moved near the site and knew God-darned well what was there before settling around the grounds complained about the noise.




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