Along the same line,If you have your License,,try for your PA, and Florida License also.. Thanks to All the help from so many friends here,,My License from Florida just came in the mail.. Both PA. and FL.will get harder to get next year..So don't Procrastinate..Get it done,,While you still can..
The worse part of this whole thing is to wait 6 monts, makes it ever worse when the city is taking about 12 weeks,
I wonder, what is the reason behind?
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Honestly, the only reason I do not apply is that it would be less time consuming and less effort to move entirely to another state/county. Buying a house in another state for me would be less paperwork. I have no tolerance for Red Tape that's main purpose , well, is to be Red Tape.
I also have no desire to wrestle a license out of people who's main goal is to find reasons to find a way to not give it to me.
The mere idea that someone can have my license revoked and firearms confiscated with a phone call troubles me greatly.
Until such time as NYS grows up, I will advocate for better laws, but have no desire to jump through the illegal hoops.
In NY, I have college educated adults, professionals, who ask me if I am worried about "getting raided" because I own rifles. People who look at my rifles and say "You better hope the Cops don't find out." like I am the DC sniper. Fully grown adults who read somewhere that I am 42 times more likely to shoot myself than an intruder. Educated adults who think a firearm in the home is CERTAIN to kill someone.
I am not worried about not having a handgun. I am worried about everyone else worrying about my handgun.
Case and Point :A friend of mine and I, along with a few others, are sitting at TGI Fridays having appetizers and drinks. He get phone call from his boss, and they begin to argue about unpaid overtime, and my friend says "look, Ill see you Monday and we will work this out."
An hour later, he gets home and the Police are at his house. They ask him for ID and ask if he had been drinking. He says yes, and they immediately ask if he is carrying his pistol. He says "No, I am not licensed to carry." At which point they explain that his bosses WIFE was worried that he might "go ballistic" and called the Police.
Another friend of mine, very recently, had his entire collection confiscated because his sons girlfriend (a drug seeking drunkard) fell down the front steps drunk, in front of multiple witnesses, and hurt her foot, then went to the hospital and claimed she was beaten by her boyfriend because he refused to drive her there because he was drinking too. She calls the house and the boyfriends mother says "If you try to come back to this house, there will be trouble." BINGOm she calls the Cops and says she was threatened. This poor man is retired and in failing health. They took his guns "until her Order Of Protection" is up. Then this same girl begins sneaking back into the house to see her boyfriend. Long story short, she is in Riverhead now for violations of her own Order of Protection, running from the police, driving drunk, blowing two stop signs, speeding, running over a construction site, and jumping out of a moving vehicle that still had passengers. The judge raised her bail from $3500 to $7500 for her many "uncooperative" moments in Court. My friend has retained a lawyer, but has resigned his firearms to auction in his mind.
But my old retired friend was the threat.
To me, it is more hassle than it is worth.
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It can be done relatively quickly. Just make sure your paperwork is in order, don't try to hide anything.
I handed in my paperwork in late October last year, fingerprinted first week of December, my Nassau County License postcard mailed out January 19 2010.
The worse part of this whole thing is to wait 6 monts, makes it ever worse when the city is taking about 12 weeks,
I wonder, what is the reason behind?
The reason for 6 months on LI, and 3 months in NYC, is simply because that's what the law allows them - otheriwse it would likely be much longer!
... Many have gotten done in 3-4 months in Nassau/Suffolk, but there's always some saying they're going on 7-8 months.
backlog? that's just poor management - if you get 10 apps a day, you should be getting 10 licenses/denials out per day also... if you don't get them out, you get backed up more and more. In this computerized world there's no need for it to take more than a WEEK.
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That is one heck of a read. You are correct in saying it is too easy to lose your guns, here is another example.
I knew a guy who bought several 30rd AR mags a couple years back from a rummage bin at a LOCAL gun shop. A few of them were stamped with dates later than 09/94 and he was told since the Federal AWB was over, he was in the clear. He had them a good year or so, then him and his girlfriend got into a huge fight because she wanted to use his car that night......she calls the cops and told them he threatened her with one of his pistols. She lied because she wanted the Cops to come and scare him for her. Little does dippy know a Domestic Incident is not taken lightly by the boys at HQ.
So Suffolk County PD responds to his home, confiscates his pistols, rifles and then finds his two illegal magazines.....he was arrested and went to jail after being charged with two Class D felonies. She explained that she lied and he never threatened her and they told her that was irrelevant to her case because he was in possession of "high capacity" magazines. She was then arrested for falsifying a Police report. She plea bargained out and got a slap on the wrist and community service, but he went to jail.
What a fiasco indeed and the moral of the story: Let your girlfriend/wife drive your truck when she wants to!
Honestly, the only reason I do not apply is that it would be less time consuming and less effort to move entirely to another state/county. Buying a house in another state for me would be less paperwork. I have no tolerance for Red Tape that's main purpose , well, is to be Red Tape.
I also have no desire to wrestle a license out of people who's main goal is to find reasons to find a way to not give it to me.
The mere idea that someone can have my license revoked and firearms confiscated with a phone call troubles me greatly.
Until such time as NYS grows up, I will advocate for better laws, but have no desire to jump through the illegal hoops.
To me, it is more hassle than it is worth.
I don't know if you are exaggerating for effect, but it should be pointed out that your perception of the process does not jive with the reality for many of us. No reason to scare people away from what is a relatively simple and painless process.
I would venture to say that the DMV process alone encountered when moving to another state would involve more paperwork and effort than getting a Pistol License in Suffolk County.
Fill out one form, get four friends to sign and notarize a form, go to Police HQ once for interview/fingerprints. License arrives in mail a few months later. For many of us, the process is that simple.
I know MANY Nassau and Suffolk Pistol License holders, not one of whom has ever been hassled or raided by authorities. Not to say that it doesn't happen, but I think it is the exception rather than the ruler.
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In NY, I have college educated adults, professionals, who ask me if I am worried about "getting raided" because I own rifles. People who look at my rifles and say "You better hope the Cops don't find out." like I am the DC sniper. Fully grown adults who read somewhere that I am 42 times more likely to shoot myself than an intruder. Educated adults who think a firearm in the home is CERTAIN to kill someone.
While this has never happened to me, I can believe it. On the other side, most people I meet and discuss firearms with would never think of applying for a pistol license simply for the reasons you cite in your post. They (incorrectly, IMO) believe it is too much trouble to apply, the odds of getting approved are slim to none and that if approved they would be "targeted" by law enforcement.
I try to dispel these falsehoods as much as I can. More people should be encouraged to apply for a license. The more of us there are, the more commonplace firearms ownership will be. The more commonplace, then the less people will be intimidated by guns/gunowners.
Also remember that politicians looks at numbers when making policy. As the number of (responsible) license holders grows, the more impact our voice will have. You can bet that Suffolk and/or Nassau rules would be different (better) if the number of license holders were 3, 4 or 10 times what it is now.
I am a new license holder in Suffolk County. I went to Yaphank for the first time in early November, had my interview in Mid December, and received my permit in the mail the first week of April. 5 months from start to finish, and it really was very simple. Granted, I have nothing on my record, heck, not even a speeding ticket in the last 5 years. I submitted my PA license application last week and will be getting my FL this week. Honestly, it is very simple and takes nothing more than a couple of trips down to the HQ to get it done.
Also remember that politicians looks at numbers when making policy. As the number of (responsible) license holders grows, the more impact our voice will have. You can bet that Suffolk and/or Nassau rules would be different (better) if the number of license holders were 3, 4 or 10 times what it is now.
Great point.
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Don't be discouraged by the negative post here. I could easily write equally scary stuff about you having sex with your girlfriend or applying for your learners permit.
I know many people that have had their license for 15+ years and it has not caused problems for them. There is always someone who runs into a problem but those people are in the very small minority.
The people at the Nassau pistol license section were very helpful throughout the process and I never had the feeling anyone was looking for a reason not to approve my license. The process is a bit time consuming, but none of it is difficult.
If you are a level headed person go for it.
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Don't be discouraged by the negative post here. I could easily write equally scary stuff about having sex with your girlfriend or applying for your learners permit.
Tony, You had sex with my girlfriend? Now i'm really scared hope my wife doesn't find out! :
I could easily write equally scary stuff about you having sex with your girlfriend or applying for your learners permit.
Now NY requires me to have a learners permit to have sex with my girlfriend? I hope It doesn't take as long to get as the pistol permit.....NOW THAT WOULD BE A LONG 6 MONTHS! [img]/blahdocs/Smilies/shock.png[/img]
Definitely worth applying for a license. The folks down at the Nassau pistol section are great people to deal with.
Not only that, learning how to shoot a pistol accurately and consistently is a challenge all unto itself. Always worth learning a new skill.
Ron, great to see you posting here. I have 4 people lined up waiting to do references for me, also persuaded my wife to apply for a lisence together with me. All I need is to find a day that both my wife and I can take a day off to go there together, and this is the most difficult part. Have you started doing handgun transfer yet?
I guess my original post was a bit negative. I should clear it up.
There are many venomous Anti-Gun people in both my family and my life, some so brainwashed they would love nothing more than to see me get denied. I moved out of my family's home because I knew it was a matter of time before someone who got angry with me would call the Police and have everything stripped from me for thier own amusment and to gladly sing the "I told you so" song. Harsh, yes. Truth, you betcha. Some of them are so anti-gun, I would not put it past them to lie to an investigator to see me denied. I have no desire to fuel their unfounded rage with my time or money. You can choose your friends in life, you can't choose your family, and you can't choose your neighbors.
I have had the Polcie called on me for the following:
Smoke from my BBQ Smoke from my LEGAL fireplace loud music (WBAB on 4 yelling in my own house while playing a video game Carrying a rifle inside after a day at the range. Sitting outside, packed and waiting for a ride to go hunting at six AM Cleaning my rifle on the back patio "strange vehicles" (my friends coming by for visits)
I do really need to move.
I am not saying "It is not worth it for anyone" I merely mean that is is not worth it for me. I should have been more specific.
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As soon as I can come up with 4 non-relative Suffolk residents whom I'm comfortable asking to fill out affidavits and have them notarized. Until then, I'd just be wasting everybody's time and getting denied (which is the intended result).
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I waited until my father died and was 53 when I got back into shooting and got my license, now my wife and our two best friends got theirs. Now I'm sorry missed all those years. Don't make excuses! Just do it.
sounds like one of your neighbors has a thing for you......
She has a thing for anything that moves, makes a sound, a smell, or parks crooked.
The Police call her "The Creeper" because she creeps around listening to people at their fences.
And it is a shame because I am probably the only bit of security she will ever have, I do keep an eye on her house like it was mine, she is old and lives alone. She can be nasty, but I don't want anything to happen to her. Even when she walks to the bus, we wait until we see she is safe, both leaving and coming home.
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maybe send over some pie.......
I have had a old person or two who had the crazy, but for some reason always called me when they needed a hand or something fixed around the house - suprised she can see so good........
The part that halted me was asking 3 people non family, non officers to sign. And they prefer Suffolk county res. I grew up in nassau all of my friends are there and a few are NCPD. I really do not want to ask neighbors. What if my neighbors do not want me to have one? What if they are against guns? I do not want to be denied. Plus I have limited myself to shopping in the rifle and shotgun classifieds. I cant imagine how much money I would spend on all those cool handguns.
I guess my original post was a bit negative. I should clear it up.
There are many venomous Anti-Gun people in both my family and my life, some so brainwashed they would love nothing more than to see me get denied. I moved out of my family's home because I knew it was a matter of time before someone who got angry with me would call the Police and have everything stripped from me for thier own amusment and to gladly sing the "I told you so" song. Harsh, yes. Truth, you betcha. Some of them are so anti-gun, I would not put it past them to lie to an investigator to see me denied. I have no desire to fuel their unfounded rage with my time or money. You can choose your friends in life, you can't choose your family, and you can't choose your neighbors.
I have had the Polcie called on me for the following:
Smoke from my BBQ Smoke from my LEGAL fireplace loud music (WBAB on 4 yelling in my own house while playing a video game Carrying a rifle inside after a day at the range. Sitting outside, packed and waiting for a ride to go hunting at six AM Cleaning my rifle on the back patio "strange vehicles" (my friends coming by for visits)
I do really need to move.
I am not saying "It is not worth it for anyone" I merely mean that is is not worth it for me. I should have been more specific.
Wow where the heck do you live with these whinners???? LI has tons of whinners and complainers looks like you lived in their traning ground.
I lived in Suffolk for over 6 years then moved to Nassau and then still waited until about June of last year before applying. Got it in April. Nothing like being refused a right while waiting to be allowed to have that right.
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She has a thing for anything that moves, makes a sound, a smell, or parks crooked.
The Police call her "The Creeper" because she creeps around listening to people at their fences.
And it is a shame because I am probably the only bit of security she will ever have, I do keep an eye on her house like it was mine, she is old and lives alone. She can be nasty, but I don't want anything to happen to her. Even when she walks to the bus, we wait until we see she is safe, both leaving and coming home.
We had one like that out in Illinois - She complained about my neighbor's wood-burning stove chimney (metal pipe out a boarded up window) and his backyard light (well, it is kinda bright - a sodium 'streetlamp' that was acquired... lit the backyard up nice for all the local kids to play in the evenings) ...she'd come to all the BBQ's etc. and once when she started a grumble her own husband yelled at her - "Go...mit! woman! You can only see that chimney if you crawl in the corner of our yard and lean over the fence!!! shut up already!!!"
She was my first example of someone who isn't happy unless they are UNhappy.... One of those who could win a million dollars and never stop complaining how they had to pay taxes on it.... This neighbor you describe is one of those it sounds like.
Just be pleasant to her - she may have perceived something you did as "against her" You know.... You friend was over, parked in front of YOUR house, so when your dad came home he HAD to park in front of HER house! How DARE you!?!?!
Say hi, ask how she is, if she needs anything.... even if she's nasty to you, just be a caring neighbor. If nothing else it'll mess with her head some
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am a new license holder in Suffolk County. I went to Yaphank for the first time in early November, had my interview in Mid December, and received my permit in the mail the first week of April. 5 months from start to finish, and it really was very simple. Granted, I have nothing on my record, heck, not even a speeding ticket in the last 5 years. I submitted my PA license application last week and will be getting my FL this week. Honestly, it is very simple and takes nothing more than a couple of trips down to the HQ to get it done.
am a new license holder in Suffolk County. I went to Yaphank for the first time in early November, had my interview in Mid December, and received my permit in the mail the first week of April. 5 months from start to finish, and it really was very simple. Granted, I have nothing on my record, heck, not even a speeding ticket in the last 5 years. I submitted my PA license application last week and will be getting my FL this week. Honestly, it is very simple and takes nothing more than a couple of trips down to the HQ to get it done.
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