http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/gun_stash_bust_near_city_school_aYZs8m6ZYg6GNy65mOBkFO


Well folks...don't talk about your gun collection out in public, or some overwrought twit with an irrational fear of firearms will call the police and have your home raided.  Then you and your family will be arrested.  

I especially like this part:

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Cops don't believe the family had dastardly plans for the guns, or were trying to sell them.

So why were they arrested then?  There's no mention of whether or not any or all of the guns were legally owned and registered with the city.  Seems to me if even one was illegal, that would have been mentioned.  Yeah, they said two were "assault" rifles...but until a make and model is named, I'm not convinced.  Your typical reporter wouldn't know an "assault rifle" from a cheese grater.

For the life of me I just don't get it.......  These stories leave me at a loss for words.  

I love one of the comments from a reader.  I quote:

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New Yorkers are so isolated, naive and government whipped, its scary. 15-20 guns is an "arsenal only the Hatfields and McCoys could appreciate"? Another poster on here said the founding father's didn't intend to protect this type of gun ownership?

LOL, please, NY City folks, stay in the city and don't venture out. If you had any idea what goes on in the much less crime filled rural areas of america in terms of gun ownership, I think you would all pee your pants.

He was in Brooklyn, in Bloombergistan even long guns have to be registered by a permit holder. According to their crazy laws they were illegal guns. Sad but true.

EDIT: I saw this on fox 5 news. They reported the owner did not have any gun permit. As far as 'assault' rifles go, all they showed on TV were a few old scoped deer rifles, a few snubbie revolvers, and a 1911

Quoted from MRobs23

He was in Brooklyn, in Bloombergistan even long guns have to be registered by a permit holder. According to their crazy laws they were illegal guns. Sad but true.

Yes, I know that...but the article fails to mention whether or not the guns were legal and registered or not.  That bit of information should be easy enough to verify...either the owners had licenses and the guns were registered, or not.  The fact that any reference to the actual charges is missing from the text is suspicious to say the least.  I just want to know exactly what law they broke.  If they did break the law, fine...by all means arrest them.  However, it's just as likely in this anti-gun climate, that they're making an example of these people because some jackass who's afraid of his own shadow called the police and claimed that these folks were "dangerous".

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EDIT: I saw this on fox 5 news. They reported the owner did not have any gun permit. As far as 'assault' rifles go, all they showed on TV were a few old scoped deer rifles, a few snubbie revolvers, and a 1911

OK, I take it all back then...f*** 'em if they didn't bother to follow the rules, no matter how ridiculous they may be.  Makes us all look bad.  I don't feel sorry for them anymore.

I think my gripe is more with how the article was written.  I think we all agree that everyone should keep/maintain "legally" owned firearms.

So regardless of the incident itself, the media and public is once again misinformed and fed propaganda rather than fact.

Where are th epictures of the so called "assault rifles" and pistols.  So far all I see in the photo are hunting rifles.  On the far left there appears to be something that looks like a black rifle with folding stock but it is not clear what it actually is.  The fact that they lived across from a school is irrelevant.  Unless the guns wren;t registered as per City requirements, i don;t see anything out of the ordinary in the picture.

omg, omg, those aren't assault rifles, those are SNIPER rifles !!

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Where are th epictures of the so called "assault rifles" and pistols.  So far all I see in the photo are hunting rifles.  On the far left there appears to be something that looks like a black rifle with folding stock but it is not clear what it actually is.  The fact that they lived across from a school is irrelevant.  Unless the guns wren;t registered as per City requirements, i don;t see anything out of the ordinary in the picture.

Therein lies the heart of the matter, a two pronged opportunity to make guns look bad. If the guns were registered and legal in NYC, the media would not have the chance to say "assault rifles".

-1 for media
-1 for bad gun owner, even if he had no untoward intentions

once again, another incomplete story from the liberal media.

Today's Daily News had a follow up.
The guns were in the attic.  This guy had the guns from his Grandfather and held on to them as a collection according to the neighbors. The follow up article never mentioned handguns although it did mention pills.
The pills were all legal prescriptions and none of the pills were controlled subtances so they should never have been brought into the equation in the first place.  My question is what was told to the judge to make him sign a search warrant to begin with. Most Judges will not sign a search warrant for a fishing expedition, so I can just imagine what was told to the judge.

1010Wins has the article on thier website also.
The pic on 1010 Wins shows just run of the mill everyday hunting rifles nothing out of the ordinary

http://www.1010wins.com/Friend--Seized-Brooklyn-Weapons-Just-Family-Heirlo/6679922

This guy should have had them registered, or kept them somewhere else. Whether they were Grandpa's or the local crack dealers, no matter if they were in the attic or on the kitchen table, illegal is illegal. The media, lovers of doom and gloom, would not have a chance to mention pills, assault rifles, or anything else had this guy gone the legal route.

If my grandfather died and left me several firearms that I am not qualified to own in Suffolk, say a few machine guns and some handguns, you bet your bottom dollar I would be getting the proper paperwork in order.

As much as the media would like everyone to believe that this was ten dead children waiting to happen, it was not. However, it was a collection of illegal, unregistered firearms,and agree with the law or not, it is still the law.

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My question is what was told to the judge to make him sign a search warrant to begin with. Most Judges will not sign a search warrant for a fishing expedition, so I can just imagine what was told to the judge.

+1

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This guy should have had them registered, or kept them somewhere else. Whether they were Grandpa's or the local crack dealers, no matter if they were in the attic or on the kitchen table, illegal is illegal. The media, lovers of doom and gloom, would not have a chance to mention pills, assault rifles, or anything else had this guy gone the legal route.

If my grandfather died and left me several firearms that I am not qualified to own in Suffolk, say a few machine guns and some handguns, you bet your bottom dollar I would be getting the proper paperwork in order.

As much as the media would like everyone to believe that this was ten dead children waiting to happen, it was not. However, it was a collection of illegal, unregistered firearms,and agree with the law or not, it is still the law.

Agreed. It just burns my a$$, as it probably does everyone else who is here, that the press will never every give a fair and unbiased report when it comes to anything with guns. If these people didn;t have them registered, ok they broke the law and should be presecuted for it, but to make it sound that the school across the street was just short of being a target is just plain wrong.

Was that a mini-14? They're legal in NYC from what I know as long the mag meets nyc laws.

Quoted from DefMan

Was that a mini-14? They're legal in NYC from what I know as long the mag meets nyc laws.

That mini on the left appears to have a folding stock on it  and would thus be a NYC defined "assault rifle" and illegal.

Apologies if I shouldn't be bumbing an older thread

"Police say officers searching a Brooklyn house across the street from an elementary school found a cache of weapons, including 10 handguns, two assault rifles, a machete and an umbrella with a dagger in the handle."

OH NO! Across from a school! He MUST have been after the children! And a pedophile to boot! <---- TOTAL SARCASM!!!

I think the umbrella knife might be illegal if carried in public... and unless those were fully automatic hunting rifles or simply unregistered I'd say that whatever judge signed the warrent might be in some trouble. I can believe that the paper reported shotguns and "regular rifles"... stupid. That's why I keep all of mine legal, something like this would just be a sweet check for me.

The umbrella knife is so that he can stab the schoolchildren across the street from his window, not carry in public.