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emsjeep
February 2, 2010, 5:26pm Report to Moderator
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If I wanted to buy a C&R pistol with no serial number what would Nassau do?


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there is a rule ( i might be off on the years) pre 1895 not on you license ----no serial no. ---it is not a pistol.
call the Pistol License Section at 516-573-7559 to confirm and get a name


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Quoted from M14BULLETTS
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there is a rule ( i might be off on the years) pre 1895 not on you license ----no serial no. ---it is not a pistol.
call the Pistol License Section at 516-573-7559 to confirm and get a name


This is how I understand it, I'm not a lawyer so this is not advice.  
Under Federal law a gun manufactured prior to 1898 is an antique and is not regulated.  Under New York State law a pistol is only considered antique and non regulated if it is made prior to 1898 or is a reproduction of a gun made prior to 1898 that does not use center fire or rim fire ammunition AND you do not posses the materials necessary to load the gun.  
So only flintlock, percussion and matchlock guns can be possessed without a license.  You can not have the materials to load them in your house or you can be charged with having an unregistered hand gun.  I wouldn't be surprised if one day they tried to charge someone for having a flintlock and a 30-06 cartridge arguing the cartridge could be broken down, the powder used to prime and charge a flintlock after which anything could be dropped down the barrel for use as a projectile.  

Center fire or rim fire pistols can be considered antique and unregulated in NY if they are made prior to 1898 and the ammunition is not available through the ordinary channels of distribution.  This is playing with fire as if a prosecutor finds any company anywhere making ammunition that can work in that gun you have an illegal handgun.  You might even be in trouble if they can find a box for sale on Gun Broker.


As for the serial numbers, prior to the gun control act of 1968 firearm manufacturers were not required to put serial numbers on there guns  Most did anyway prior to this for their own purposes.  I would call the pistol licensing section and ask, I'm sure they get this question every once in a while.
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...Center fire or rim fire pistols can be considered antique and unregulated in NY if they are made prior to 1898 and the ammunition is not available through the ordinary channels of distribution.  This is playing with fire as if a prosecutor finds any company anywhere making ammunition that can work in that gun you have an illegal handgun.  You might even be in trouble if they can find a box for sale on Gun Broker.


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   The rule is simple. If you have a black powder handgun, for which you do not have powder, flint, percussion caps or balls, you do not have to register it. If you possess any of those things, along with the gun, it must be registered, on your handgun license. The absence of a serial number is of no consequence. There are many, many old guns, which never had serial numbers. Just make sure it's not something from which the serial number has been filed off.
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   The rule is simple. If you have a black powder handgun, for which you do not have powder, flint, percussion caps or balls, you do not have to register it. If you possess any of those things, along with the gun, it must be registered, on your handgun license. The absence of a serial number is of no consequence. There are many, many old guns, which never had serial numbers. Just make sure it's not something from which the serial number has been filed off.
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If you bought it 10 years ago and decided you wanted to go out and buy powder today, can you just walk in into PLS and have them put it on your license, then go to the gun store?  I feel like they might have a problem with that.


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anything without a serial number wanting to be added onto your license will result in nassau county etching a serial number into the gun I heard a story about someone adding a black powder pistol to there license and they etched the number with a handheld etcher and ruined the gun if you ask me..
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anything without a serial number wanting to be added onto your license will result in nassau county etching a serial number into the gun I heard a story about someone adding a black powder pistol to there license and they etched the number with a handheld etcher and ruined the gun if you ask me..


This is plain'ole bunk.

I have many BP pistols on my lic w/o serial numbers. If the antique is etched, it looses value.



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