will he be regulating the amount of (rock) salt in salt pellet ammo next?

Quoted from The Architect

Per NYSRPA laws of NYC; http://www.nysrpa.org/nygunlaws.htm

"No permit is required for the purchase of a rifle or shotgun (except in New York City)."

That's exactly what it says. The way it reads, if the sale takes place in Nassau or Suffolk County, it is legal. If the BUYER is a resident of NYC, they may have some legal hoops to jump through if they intend to posses that rifle in NYC. That shouldn't have any effect the seller, since the sale is legal in both the State and County.

Let's say a NYC resident is also a hunter and owns a second property upstate. Their driver's license will show NYC as their address. What if they buy a rifle privately outside the city and keep it at their upstate residence - never taking it into NYC. How could NYC take any legal action against that? The person has not done anything wrong nor have they violated any NYC or NYS law, right?

Just thinking out loud here. I know what is written is NOT always how things are enforced, especially when the re-interpertation works in the government's favor and against the citizen.


added: I would also question the title of this topic. "Crackdown" implies a stricter enforcement of the law. If true, this sounds more like NYC creating its own rules and attempting to enforce them across borders in jurisdictions where neither the written or newly invented rules do not apply.

This is the same administration that changed the terms so he can stay major..

Quoted from The Architect

This is the same administration that changed the terms so he can stay major..

Precisely. Archduke Mike wants guns out of New York City. Correction....he wants the guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens in NYC. He will do whatever it takes to do that, and he has endless resources to do it. When only criminals and his PD are the only people who have guns, he'll be happy. He'll have an 8 million person strong pool of victims for the criminals to prey on, with only his cops standing between the victims and the criminals. Mike controls the cops and that makes those 8 million people dependent upon him, and gives him real power over their lives.

He doesn't care about the Constitution; its an annoying impediment to his ambitions
He doesn't care about jurisdiction; in his mind the universe belongs to him...he'll just as soon try to lock up residents of Nassau and Suffolk for violating NYC law as he would try to influence an election in Virginia.
He insists that his serfs be healthy to serve him; he governs what they can eat or where they can smoke and taxes them for engaging in what he considers to be a vice.

The man is a living and breathing civil rights violation.

But thats just my opinion.

I for one really need to hear more before jumping to any conclusions.

Bottom line, if it's a long gun, and, legal to own in Nassau or Suffolk County, it's legal to sell in Nassau or Suffolk County, to any adult. The burden to register in NYC is up to the buyer.

Quoted from Tunaguy

As far as a private sale is there any way for a private citizen to do a NICS check? If a convicted felon wants to buy a rifle from you- he knows his background but how would you know.?

you dont need to

I check id's or ask for a pistol permit

I also have a bill of sale which states which rifle / pistol is being sold - make, model, caliber, serial number, condition, and waiver of liability including sale as is, I record seller and buyer id types and numbers on the paper and we both sign and get copies.

I also dont sell a firearm with the means to use it immediately - meaning i will ship the ammo if I have included it in the sale or drop it off to them later

Quoted from The Big Ox

Precisely. Archduke Mike wants guns out of New York City. Correction....he wants the guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens in NYC. He will do whatever it takes to do that, and he has endless resources to do it. When only criminals and his PD are the only people who have guns, he'll be happy. He'll have an 8 million person strong pool of victims for the criminals to prey on, with only his cops standing between the victims and the criminals. Mike controls the cops and that makes those 8 million people dependent upon him, and gives him real power over their lives.

He doesn't care about the Constitution; its an annoying impediment to his ambitions
He doesn't care about jurisdiction; in his mind the universe belongs to him...he'll just as soon try to lock up residents of Nassau and Suffolk for violating NYC law as he would try to influence an election in Virginia.
He insists that his serfs be healthy to serve him; he governs what they can eat or where they can smoke and taxes them for engaging in what he considers to be a vice.

The man is a living and breathing civil rights violation.

But thats just my opinion.

Wow, what an opinion. And, I agree whole-heartedly. What the population doesn't realize is that when the mayor talks about "common sense regulations", he's really talking about total disarmament.

Quoted from The Big Ox

Precisely. Archduke Mike wants guns out of New York City. Correction....he wants the guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens in NYC. He will do whatever it takes to do that, and he has endless resources to do it. When only criminals and his PD are the only people who have guns, he'll be happy. He'll have an 8 million person strong pool of victims for the criminals to prey on, with only his cops standing between the victims and the criminals. Mike controls the cops and that makes those 8 million people dependent upon him, and gives him real power over their lives.

He doesn't care about the Constitution; its an annoying impediment to his ambitions
He doesn't care about jurisdiction; in his mind the universe belongs to him...he'll just as soon try to lock up residents of Nassau and Suffolk for violating NYC law as he would try to influence an election in Virginia.
He insists that his serfs be healthy to serve him; he governs what they can eat or where they can smoke and taxes them for engaging in what he considers to be a vice.

The man is a living and breathing civil rights violation.

But thats just my opinion.

well said - I can only hope that Nassau and Suffolk act like VA and issue warrants for this thugs arrest, that would be the day - maybe that can be something Mangano should look into, hed get my vote for life........

Gary_Hungerford has it right -

4) if you live in NYC, you may purchase a long gun, outside of NYC, if you also store it, outside NYC.

I'm a NYC resident and have bought several rifles in Nassau and in Pennsylvania.  It's 100% legal and within my rights as long as I do not store them IN NYC.  My family has property in PA and I keep all of my firearms there.

Quoted from The Big Ox

Precisely. Archduke Mike wants guns out of New York City. Correction....he wants the guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens in NYC. He will do whatever it takes to do that, and he has endless resources to do it. When only criminals and his PD are the only people who have guns, he'll be happy. He'll have an 8 million person strong pool of victims for the criminals to prey on, with only his cops standing between the victims and the criminals. Mike controls the cops and that makes those 8 million people dependent upon him, and gives him real power over their lives.

He doesn't care about the Constitution; its an annoying impediment to his ambitions
He doesn't care about jurisdiction; in his mind the universe belongs to him...he'll just as soon try to lock up residents of Nassau and Suffolk for violating NYC law as he would try to influence an election in Virginia.
He insists that his serfs be healthy to serve him; he governs what they can eat or where they can smoke and taxes them for engaging in what he considers to be a vice.

The man is a living and breathing civil rights violation.

But thats just my opinion.

That's your opinion? No. Those are the cold cruel facts. (and well said!)

Totally agree....Something missing from original post...cant imagine what the crime could be unless maybe they stated they were denied a purchase from a store???

Quoted from T.Webb

I for one really need to hear more before jumping to any conclusions.

Bottom line, if it's a long gun, and, legal to own in Nassau or Suffolk County, it's legal to sell in Nassau or Suffolk County, to any adult. The burden to register in NYC is up to the buyer.

i tried to find this about people getting locked up but no luck... nothing in the news, blog or even on hitlersformayors bs website

Quoted from noarguy

i tried to find this about people getting locked up but no luck... nothing in the news, blog or even on hitlersformayors bs website

I've been looking for it, too, but can't find anything. If the source is reliable, then it's possible they're not releasing any information until they've made some more arrests.

Quoted from noarguy

i tried to find this about people getting locked up but no luck... nothing in the news, blog or even on hitlersformayors bs website

Folks:
   Let me suggest we look at this, in a slightly different way: If the NYC boobs are dumb enough to arrest anyone, for a legal action, the arrested person has perfect grounds for a major lawsuit. +1, for us.
Gary

Quoted from noarguy

i tried to find this about people getting locked up but no luck... nothing in the news, blog or even on hitlersformayors bs website

while your at it try finding some news on the beating at the woodmere train station - LIF is the only site reporting it, and the other crimes are not there either.

I suspect, if they are arresting sellers, the buyer is making some comment about not being able to pass a back ground check during the transaction. I am not an expert on the law, but I believe, if the seller knowingly sells to someone who cannot pass a back ground check, he did in fact commit a crime. This is the stunt they pulled at the out of state gun show sting.

all those once major crimes are now nothing paper worthy

Quoted from Recoil

I suspect, if they are arresting sellers, the buyer is making some comment about not being able to pass a back ground check during the transaction. I am not an expert on the law, but I believe, if the seller knowingly sells to someone who cannot pass a back ground check, he did in fact commit a crime. This is the stunt they pulled at the out of state gun show sting.

Thats what I am thinking...

anyone know if this bill passed? A01710

Remember the guy in NYC with the antique firearm.. Sounds like the same crap only in another way.

Quoted from sigsauerny

you dont need to

I check id's or ask for a pistol permit

I also have a bill of sale which states which rifle / pistol is being sold - make, model, caliber, serial number, condition, and waiver of liability including sale as is, I record seller and buyer id types and numbers on the paper and we both sign and get copies.

I also dont sell a firearm with the means to use it immediately - meaning i will ship the ammo if I have included it in the sale or drop it off to them later

Sticky for Bill of Sale?

Quoted from Recoil

I suspect, if they are arresting sellers, the buyer is making some comment about not being able to pass a back ground check during the transaction. I am not an expert on the law, but I believe, if the seller knowingly sells to someone who cannot pass a back ground check, he did in fact commit a crime. This is the stunt they pulled at the out of state gun show sting.

This would be my take on it.

In addition, I always get a bill of sale in a private purchase. You have no way of knowing (and neither does the seller if he isn't the original owner) the history of the firearm. If the firearm being purchased has been used in a crime at some point in the past I at least want something to show that I didn't own the firearm when the crime occurred.

Quoted from The Architect

Remember the guy in NYC with the antique firearm.. Sounds like the same crap only in another way.

Ya, I think the only way is if they bring it into nyc to sell it,

SO DO NOT GO INTO NYC TO SELL IT... I think this would also include mags, so be frosty guys

Let's just say that the undercovered NYPD police told the seller that thay could not pass the background check, and the seller didn't mind and sold them the long gun, could that authorize NYPD to make an arrest in Nassau?  My common sense says no.  I would say that the nassau police have to step in and make the arrest.  Am I right or wrong?  If I am right, then what happened on the raid at T&T gunner?

Quoted from Steel Baby

Let's just say that the undercovered NYPD police told the seller that thay could not pass the background check, and the seller didn't mind and sold them the long gun, could that authorize NYPD to make an arrest in Nassau?  My common sense says no.  I would say that the nassau police have to step in and make the arrest.  Am I right or wrong?  If I am right, then what happened on the raid at T&T gunner?

If it is a felony the NYPD officer can make the arrest, if less than a felony they generally will not stop, detain or search without County or State PD.  If they are here on official busines sand Nassau knows and has consented...I wouldn't hold them to any rules...