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My 6 months since Nassau County pistol permit interview (May 7) has now come and passed and...nothing. No references called, no postcards. I finally broke down and called last Friday. I managed to speak to the investigator and confirmed all my documentation was in (I updated a few telephone numbers that had changed, one of my refs had moved away, etc) and discussed my 'record' a bit (one DWI charge 20 years ago in college that was ultimately resolved as a DWAI, one minor moving violation in the last 5 years). I have never had a speeding ticket (in NY, and only one outside it), no arrests other than the DWI or any other charges of any sort. And still...nothing. I don't want to be annoying, but I feel like giving them a call and demanding they comply with state law re: written notice after 6 months. Talk me down |
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| November 10, 2009, 6:46pm |
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well..you should...but I don't know how productive that would be |
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| November 10, 2009, 7:03pm |
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If you do I don't think you're going to have to fill us in on the outcome. We can pretty well tell you what it is going to be. That being said I feel your pain. Is there any other issue that can be holding it up? You own or rent, employed for a long time at the same job? |
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| November 10, 2009, 7:14pm |
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My 6 months since Nassau County pistol permit interview (May 7) has now come and passed and...nothing. No references called, no postcards. I finally broke down and called last Friday. I managed to speak to the investigator and confirmed all my documentation was in (I updated a few telephone numbers that had changed, one of my refs had moved away, etc) and discussed my 'record' a bit (one DWI charge 20 years ago in college that was ultimately resolved as a DWAI, one minor moving violation in the last 5 years). I have never had a speeding ticket (in NY, and only one outside it), no arrests other than the DWI or any other charges of any sort. And still...nothing. I don't want to be annoying, but I feel like giving them a call and demanding they comply with state law re: written notice after 6 months. Talk me down
Jefe, don't push it. IMHO it can't lead to anything good. I would rather have you call them weekly until they get tired of hearing your voice. Just keep asking for status and if there is anything else you can do until they tell you something more concrete. If they say another month then call them back in another month, but after that keep calling weekly until they give you another deadline. If I were to guess your DWI of 20 years might be the reason your file is not moving. Even if it was 20 years ago. They may be clearing the clean record people and your stuff maybe on the back burner. I see no reason why they would deny you, I just don't want you to give them any more reasons to delay it. It's got to look like you are excited about getting it; not desperate. Be patient and keep calling as I mentioned before. Threats and warnings will do you no good. If things do get out of hand speak to a lawyer ... I hear people praising MMurtha for his/her law practice in this area. I would reach out to him/her. Do Not, I repeat, make a direct threat or confront them in any way, even though you may have right to do so... My 2 centavos Amigo. Good luck |
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micron26 |
| November 10, 2009, 8:27pm |
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If you do I don't think you're going to have to fill us in on the outcome. We can pretty well tell you what it is going to be. That being said I feel your pain. Is there any other issue that can be holding it up? You own or rent, employed for a long time at the same job?
Owned in Nassau County since 2001, been at same employer since 2000. Married since 2002. 3 kids. No legal issues  The DWAI is only considered a traffic violation, so I doubt that is the issue. I simply can't believe they would think a 20-year-old DWI plea-bargained down to a DWAI is reason enough to disqualify someone, especially with a squeaky clean record since that time. I didn't get that impression when I talked to the guy, although the conversation was pretty brief. I suspect the main reason is that the investigator didn't bother picking up the file until I called last week, and it's probably still sitting a pile somewhere. It just annoys the #^%$ out of me that they just ignore the state policy. You make someone jump through that many hoops and then you can't even live up to (legal) obligations? It's just not right. |
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| November 10, 2009, 8:54pm |
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I am feeling the same way. My 6 months are up at the end of this week. None of my references have been contacted. I have no legal issues at all, but have not heard a word from them. |
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| November 10, 2009, 9:16pm |
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It is only after the 6 or 8 months of waiting that everything starts happening, not during that time. Yes it seems they just sit on the app for that long. Then out of the blue they call your wife, your boss and then they contact you. You come in and they take your picture, finger prints and throw a couple of in your face questions to see your reaction ( from what I hear they don't do that anymore and it seems to be a pretty friendly event) ... In any event hold on... It is coming. |
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| November 10, 2009, 9:53pm |
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My guess is you will be purchasing your handgun for Thanksgiving. |
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| November 10, 2009, 9:58pm |
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Sit back, relax and stop checking your mailbox every 10 minutes. You have waited this long for a pistol license, don't blow it when you are down to the wire. Have you been to a gun shop lately? Where do you think all those guns are going? Who do you think is processing the paper work for all those new pistol license holders?
When you get the license it will be worth the wait. Blow it now, and you will forever kick yourself in the pants.
Trust me, when you have that license for a few years, you will forget about the details of the wait.
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micron26 |
| November 11, 2009, 10:58pm |
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I appreciate all the responses. I can wait a little longer. Just wanted a chance to rant a little As a side note, there's so much to rant about these days... |
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| November 12, 2009, 3:51am |
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"I need my permit now, I have some business to attend to." |
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| November 12, 2009, 7:41am |
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Question for recent Nassau license recipients?
Did Nassau PD call any of your references?
I reside in Suffolk, and none of my references were called. Only one call to my wife at her employment. The investigator asked if she knew I was applying for a license, and if I had a good moral character. (My wife probably lied about my moral character because I received the license a week later). And, this was in June of 2009. |
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micron26 |
| November 12, 2009, 12:53pm |
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"I need my permit now, I have some business to attend to."
Heh, that's exactly the impression I don't want to give the NCPD. I was really hoping to get this squared away a week or two before Thanksgiving. I will be spending a week and change in PA (where I grew up) and I'll be able to shoot pretty much every day. When you grow up in the middle of the woods on 16 acres in a sparsely populated area, it's basically load up and head out to the backyard--as I did pretty much whenever I wanted to as a kid. We might even build a true backstop this year just to be able to shoot the high-powered stuff. But shotguns, pistols and .22 LR are good to go. |
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| November 12, 2009, 1:24pm |
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"I need my permit now, I have some business to attend to."
OH YEAH that'll work |
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| November 12, 2009, 1:36pm |
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| November 12, 2009, 2:08pm |
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someone needs to find the law but as I said before I was told they had to approve you within 6 months or supply a court letter stating why its being delayed. I called my investigator on the exact day 6 months latter and told them what I was told they called me back in 30 mins and told me to come get the permit. |
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| November 12, 2009, 2:18pm |
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someone needs to find the law but as I said before I was told they had to approve you within 6 months or supply a court letter stating why its being delayed. I called my investigator on the exact day 6 months latter and told them what I was told they called me back in 30 mins and told me to come get the permit.
Here is the section of PL400 that deals with processing time... 4-a. Processing of license applications. Applications for licenses shall be accepted for processing by the licensing officer at the time of presentment. Except upon written notice to the applicant specifically stating the reasons for any delay, in each case the licensing officer shall act upon any application for a license pursuant to this section within six months of the date of presentment of such an application to the appropriate authority. Such delay may only be for good cause and with respect to the applicant. In acting upon an application, the licensing officer shall either deny the application for reasons specifically and concisely stated in writing or grant the application and issue the license applied for. |
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| November 12, 2009, 2:31pm |
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i knew it was some where thanks. It was amazing when I told them this like 7 years ago they called all my contacts and one person who lives next door within 10 mins and approved it no post card nothing just come and get it picked it up within an hour. |
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| November 12, 2009, 2:53pm |
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You have to envy the bad guys No application to fill out It doesn't cost them filing fees, There is no waiting period and it's 24 hour unrestricted carry for them. What the hell are we doing wrong? |
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| November 12, 2009, 3:20pm |
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Here is the section of PL400 that deals with processing time...
4-a. Processing of license applications. Applications for licenses shall be accepted for processing by the licensing officer at the time of presentment. Except upon written notice to the applicant specifically stating the reasons for any delay, in each case the licensing officer shall act upon any application for a license pursuant to this section within six months of the date of presentment of such an application to the appropriate authority. Such delay may only be for good cause and with respect to the applicant. In acting upon an application, the licensing officer shall either deny the application for reasons specifically and concisely stated in writing or grant the application and issue the license applied for.
This is really misleading though. It says acted upon within 6 months of the date of presentment. Does that mean the date you turned in the application or the date of your interview/fingerprinting? For the most part, it has been agreed in here that this means 6 months from fingerprinting/interview. I think, if memory serves, that Murtha even chimed in with that information. But this law reads very misleading. Why can't laws just get written in plain english rather than legalese? |
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| November 12, 2009, 4:19pm |
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"Does that mean the date you turned in the application"...
My simple understand is "yes".
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"Does that mean the date you turned in the application"...
My simple understand is "yes".
That was my initial thought too. That, for me, means either December (6 months from turn in) or February (6 months from printing). But, if memory serves, I think Murtha once chimed in saying it was from the date of printing. Either way, it is no where near soon enough. I just laugh. When I was applying for Maine, I called them when I was headed for my fingerprinting. They said it was not done yet, just waiting for something from New York. Then, the woman happily told me there was no reason it would be denied, unless I was a serial wife beater here in NYS and then, she APOLOGIZED PROFUSELY for it taking longer than 6 wks. Laugh away everybody. |
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| November 12, 2009, 4:28pm |
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You have to envy the bad guys No application to fill out It doesn't cost them filing fees, There is no waiting period and it's 24 hour unrestricted carry for them. What the hell are we doing wrong?
Nothing, that is one of the key elements that seperates them, from us. We wait longer, pay more for our guns and licenses, because we abide by the law. We may not agree with every detail and the restrictions imposed on us, however we abide. |
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| November 12, 2009, 4:55pm |
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I was in the same boat a few weeks ago. Once your references are contacted your license is not far behind. I called at the day after the 6 month mark. I was told I would get the post card within 2 weeks. I got it two weeks later. Applications are up at least double what they were last year. It appears they are in no rush to get it to you before the 6 month mark despite what the penal law / code says. They leave contacting the references for last. My advice would be to wait another week or so ...call your references... if they haven't been contacted then I'd call and ask to speak to your specific invesitgating officer. I was in a gunshop two weeks ago and the owner told me how a snooty well-to-do man came in and demanded his permit (not in a polite fashion). THe PO asked his name pulled his file and tore the folder in half right in front of him. You'll get your permit soon. |
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| November 12, 2009, 5:39pm |
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That was my initial thought too. That, for me, means either December (6 months from turn in) or February (6 months from printing). But, if memory serves, I think Murtha once chimed in saying it was from the date of printing. Either way, it is no where near soon enough. I just laugh. When I was applying for Maine, I called them when I was headed for my fingerprinting. They said it was not done yet, just waiting for something from New York. Then, the woman happily told me there was no reason it would be denied, unless I was a serial wife beater here in NYS and then, she APOLOGIZED PROFUSELY for it taking longer than 6 wks. Laugh away everybody.
According to the NCPD it's 6 months from the interview/fingerprinting, not the date of turning in the application. |
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